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[Wayne]

Thank you for answers.
When we told O3a3c we mean former O3a5. Is it so?
At this picture we can see O3a5 at Tibet...

My grand... grand father was born in Mongolia. I know his russian name whaen he change the religion, but I don't know his mongolian name...

My face -
it is typical for Russian, but features of the Asian origin (an eye for example, cheekbones) are visible. And photo of my relatives on the father - grandfathers, great-grandfathers - quite mongol-Buryat persons.

I did a verification and yes, O3a3c is formerly O3a5.
So you could really be of either Tibetan or Han origin afterall then?
Both are high possibilities since both share this gene, and both interact closely with Mongols.
Its hard to guess which!
Your photo reminds me of the great Rachmaninov too - clearly Russian, but with Asian features.
Only he's much thinner.

[SNK_1408]

I did a verification and yes, O3a3c is formerly O3a5.
So you could really be of either Tibetan or Han origin afterall then?
Both are high possibilities since both share this gene, and both interact closely with Mongols.
Its hard to guess which!
Your photo reminds me of the great Rachmaninov too - clearly Russian, but with Asian features.
Only he's much thinner.

wait a second, who told you all O3 is exclusively belonged to Tibetan/han Chinese? therefore it's Sino-Tibetan origin?
Wasn't O1, O2 & O3 are came from O? all rest are formed after the mutation.
So all Os came from central Asia, that will make you central asian origin?

If you really want to get into O3 subgroups.
Let's talk about O3a3b-M7, wasn't this is exclusively available from Hmong and Han Chinese people?
Or let's make it simpler for you, Haplogroup O3 (M122).

Using Y-DNA Haplogroup marker as mean to identify race or ethnicity is stupid.

[Wayne]

wait a second, who told you all O3 is exclusively belonged to Tibetan/han Chinese? therefore it's Sino-Tibetan origin?
Wasn't O1, O2 & O3 are came from O? all rest are formed after the mutation.
So all Os came from central Asia, that will make you central asian origin?

If you really want to get into O3 subgroups.
Let's talk about O3a3b-M7, wasn't this is exclusively available from Hmong and Han Chinese people?
Or let's make it simpler for you, Haplogroup O3 (M122).

Using Y-DNA Haplogroup marker as mean to identify race or ethnicity is stupid.

This is one of the premises used by Spencer Wells in his famous book The Journey of Man: A Genetic Odyssey, to trace the origins of people.
I didn't find it stupid, but rather it made a lot of sense to me. Yes in the end we are all Africans, not just central Asians.
We are talking about origins, not current ethnicity.
So is GDA stupid to trace his Mongol origins, since he is an ethnic Russian?
If I happen to have Hmong ancestry, should I not want to know?
Perhaps some people would rather not know.

[GDA]

Hello!

We (The RJGG team) start to collect articles for second issue of the Russian Journal of Genetic Genealogy (English version).

www.rjgg.org - english version
ru.rjgg.org - russian version

english version differ from russian version


Are there any at this forum wish to write an article for the journal (in English) about (any theme):
-asian haplogroups
-chinese haplogroups
-historic migration of the people in Asia (or in China)
-origin of haplogroup O (or any other)
etc?

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P.S.: To read russian articles you can use google-translate, and then read any
russian-pdf, i.e. Boris Malyarchuk and other...

Edited by GDA, 14 August 2009 - 05:22 AM.