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#16 WangEnlai

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 08:46 PM

[Asked by Ur as well, Urofpersia did you ask anyone as well?]
"The total amount of undesired sex endured by women is probably greater in marriage than in prostitution."

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 08:51 PM

[Asked by Ur as well, Urofpersia did you ask anyone as well?]


[Welcome too Ah Wongjai... try not the burn up the forest, AB, FF and Hui-en are still there]

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 12:09 AM

Oi Guys,

leave the SADWATDGI thread for the real narrative. Any other chatter post here yeah? ;)

Super Mods please move them over here.

Yeah, MKY has very kindly agreed to participate in our game. Wangenlai, haven't got your reply yet? The next scenario wil be ready in a few days so have your characters ready to rock and roll by this weekend.

are you ready to Rumble? :b_evil: :b_evil:
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Posted 25 August 2006 - 12:15 AM

Moved. New policy from the new GM, people: all off-topic discussions go either to this thread, or to our e-mail group (Ur, added MKY and WangEnlai to the e-mail list yet?).

That will keep the RPG thread free of clutter.

In case there's still confusion, Ur is the Acting GM during Snowybeagle's absence.
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Posted 25 August 2006 - 12:19 AM

Moved. New policy from the new GM, people: all off-topic discussions go either to this thread, or to our e-mail group (Ur, added MKY and WangEnlai to the e-mail list yet?).


Not yet but will do so with the next missive welcoming and introducing them.
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Posted 25 August 2006 - 12:20 AM

Jieming, how's the 'newspapers in Tang' controversy going? ;)

Maybe you can explain here your intention in getting AB to read a newspaper - what sort of info is he meant to get from it? If it's a necessary plot device, we could still modify it to make it more realistic.
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Posted 25 August 2006 - 04:26 AM

[ I'm in, I'll go off to find a char I want to use. ]

Just finished Charles Benn's book on everyday tang china. Got a pretty good look at Tang but it didn't give everything I wanted to know. :D Good read overall.

Is the DGI-storyline still the same year?
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Posted 25 August 2006 - 08:19 AM

[ I'm in, I'll go off to find a char I want to use. ]

Just finished Charles Benn's book on everyday tang china. Got a pretty good look at Tang but it didn't give everything I wanted to know. :D Good read overall.

Is the DGI-storyline still the same year?

Dream up one quickly.

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 11:09 AM

[ I'm in, I'll go off to find a char I want to use. ]

Just finished Charles Benn's book on everyday tang china. Got a pretty good look at Tang but it didn't give everything I wanted to know. :D Good read overall.

Is the DGI-storyline still the same year?


Yes, the new scenario will follow immediately after we wrap up the current scenes.
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#25 WangEnlai

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 11:14 AM

Khitan/Turk swords were like Dao's, correct?

And about Japanese swords such as AB's... how did they look like then - one sided jian? or did they look like a pseudo-katana?
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#26 Yun

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Posted 25 August 2006 - 09:20 PM

Actually, Japanese swords in this period looked just like Tang dao - i.e. straight and single-edged. AB's having a katana is an anachronism, since the katana didn't exist then. Wonder if we should do something about that?

Nomads like the Khitan and Turks would have used the same straight dao as the Tang did. The only exception would be the use of curved scimitars by some Arabs and Persians, although they did use straight swords too. We have archaeological evidence of some imported Persian-style scimitars being used by the Tang elite.
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#27 Liang Jieming

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Posted 26 August 2006 - 12:38 AM

Jieming, how's the 'newspapers in Tang' controversy going? ;)

Maybe you can explain here your intention in getting AB to read a newspaper - what sort of info is he meant to get from it? If it's a necessary plot device, we could still modify it to make it more realistic.

I'm still trying to dig out my reference to Tang newspapers. XD I wanted something in it that AB would read.

As for the Japanese dao... well... it was made by an eccentric Japanese swordsmith who made it curved instead of straight like the regular daos and that was what made it so special when the emperor presented it to AB. :P XD

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#28 Liang Jieming

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Posted 26 August 2006 - 12:54 AM

yeah I guess the word katana wouldn't have been invented yet so it'll be a dao or maybe a changdao. definitely can't call it a jian.

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Posted 26 August 2006 - 01:50 AM

A question.. how does snowy/yun/ur deal with God Modders/God Modding/Deus Ex Machina?

I haven't joined in on DGI yet so I'm wondering how fighting is done, how do you miss? The other person decides? (like sparring)


Its collaborative storytelling. The idea is we are here to tell stories, not to win. The idea is eveyone here is mature and your aim in participating is not to show how kick-a** your character and how he is this supreme fighter with ungodly skills. i mean, that is just so juvenile.

Imagine this is a novel, what would make it interesting? What is your character like? What are his/her flaws? Everyone is usually this handsome dude or gorgeous babe, how about playing a scarred cripple for once?

So the game only works if everybody agrees to come together to tell a good story for everybody and to give chances for others to take centre-stage. Do dramatic stuff by all means, be heroic, be sadistic, have a fetish, whatever you want. But keep 'telling a good story in mind'. Use your brains more often and your brawn less. The solution to every problem is not just to fight it out.

The GM in this game is really more a facilitator, filling in the missing chunks, leading the scenes along when necessary much like a moderator on a forum. If he is doing his job he should be invisible most of the time. Let the players tell their stories. Everyone contributes to the plot, come up with your own ideas. For an example of what I mean take a look at how Elisha fleshed out the character Jade, inventing the backstory and motivations of the characters. And driving the story in the direction she wants to go.

To give a more direct answer to your question, my preference is everyone narrates a scene and always give an opening or hook for others to continue.
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Posted 28 August 2006 - 06:29 AM

By process of elimination, it most probably have to do with the strange foreigners that have recently appeared in Canton.



Elisha, your post is great except for some lack of continuity here. Jade knows a bit more about the Black Ones than this line suggests, because they were part of Mansur's group when he was trying to get the Gem Master to hand Syed over to him. They also lay in ambush during the prisoner exchange at the monastery the night before this post - Jade did not spot them, but they charged out and massacred part of the White Tigers after Mansur realized the Gem Master intended to keep Syed for himself. Jade went off in pursuit of 'Syed' (actually Han Qi), and did not fight the Black Ones, but she must have caught some glimpse of them and also heard about them from the Gem Master before that.

So it would be more logical for her to just say 'Black Ones' and not 'strange foreigners'.
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