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#31 hansioux

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 04:33 PM

Nevertheless, using our site as a platform for "hacking" another site in an act seemingly motivated by ethnic hatred is unacceptable.  CHF welcomes all people of all ethnicities.  We have no need to make a name for ourselves as some site that promotes hatred.

The way I see it, it would be like me hacking into CHF, spamming this picture:

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and yelling and screaming about how much the Chinese suck and the Vietnamese rock..

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Dude, the Vietnamese rock!!!
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Posted 15 April 2005 - 09:21 PM

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and yelling and screaming about how much the Chinese suck and the Vietnamese rock..

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LOL... It happened in 40 AD, early Han wears Mongolian/Manchu clothes? :blink:

#33 Yun

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Posted 15 April 2005 - 09:37 PM

Yes, that's a really stupid picture, no matter how well drawn it is. Manchu pigtails and 19th-century Vietnamese uniforms, plus making the Chinese look like yellow ape-like barbarians when the Vietnamese looked just like them? Furthermore, the Vietnamese like to think of the Trung sisters as riding elephants, but there is no evidence for it.

Hansioux, I hope you were being ironic. I hate art being used for propaganda, and I have a strong sensitivity to when it's being used that way.
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#34 thirdgumi

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 05:50 AM

Do not get too sensitive, they are just pictures. As for the word "Japanese", it could be just a inicial, maybe he was too lazy to write the complete word, not worthy to put a warning because of this. Though, hacking other sites is condenmable.
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#35 Sephodwyrm

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 05:50 PM

Actually, most art that illustrates warfare is slightly propagandistic. The Massacre of Chios is one of them. Prior to that, the Greeks have depopulated the island of Turks. When the Turks landed, the Greek army retreated leaving their own people and the evidence that they have massacred Turks behind. What resulted in Turkish vengeance...and a very famous art piece:
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I would still say that the Ming vs Japan picture is not really good (bad perspective, some problem with layout etc, yet historically it is much more accurate than the Truong sisters sketch). But there is also another picture of a siege of the same battle in which the Koreans (men and women) held out against a Japanese assault.

And talking about the Imjin Waeran wars...
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#36 Gubook Janggoon

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Posted 16 April 2005 - 06:16 PM

And talking about the Imjin Waeran wars...
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Dude...I don't think anyone uses this anymore....that doesn't even look like Admiral Yi....he's on some coin though..

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#37 caocao74

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Posted 17 April 2005 - 09:10 AM

Dude...I don't think anyone uses this anymore

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#38 handynas

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Posted 23 April 2005 - 12:27 PM

Do not get too sensitive, they are just pictures. As for the word "Japanese", it could be just a inicial, maybe he was too lazy to write the complete word, not worthy to put a warning because of this. Though, hacking other sites is condenmable.

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ya like me, i'm too lazy to type the entire word so i use "Japanese" instead, ok back to the pic, why is it that the viets look exactly like Qing soldiers???and i thot the ape like peepur are the viets?

#39 Sephodwyrm

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Posted 23 April 2005 - 01:46 PM

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#40 TMPikachu

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Posted 23 April 2005 - 07:09 PM

No one is apelike. Please refrain from using insults, no matter how subtle, against other ethnicities.

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I think during the European 'Age of Enlightenment', their scientists proposed that Asians were descended from the orangutan, and during WWII, some American scientists said that the Japanese skull was 10,000 years less advanced than the Caucasian.

I think it's kinda funny (well, still terrible) that pretty much every 'race' of human has called the other ape-like due to different features.
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#41 Chu Zhuyu

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Posted 23 May 2005 - 09:09 AM

:)

Nice pictures...

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Posted 27 May 2005 - 05:59 AM

Interesting, The Vietnamese use elephants in wars. I thought it was just the Lao and Thais. :g:
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#43 Pingpong

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Posted 27 May 2005 - 09:06 AM

http://www.chinahist...8
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#44 Alexander39

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Posted 27 May 2005 - 10:58 AM

Interesting, The Vietnamese use elephants in wars. I thought it was just the Lao and Thais. :g:

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The Burmese also made good use of elephants, some the battles between the Burmese and Thai most have been an aweinspiring whit both sides Elephants duking it out against each other.
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#45 Kulong

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Posted 27 May 2005 - 11:36 AM

Hahaha... gotta love that picture of the Trung sisters... completely historically inaccurate and it's a scenary that only exists in the mind of the extreme Vietnamese nationalists... :lol:
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