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Xia/Shang/Zhou







Spring and Autumn/Warring states





Qin/Han

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Age of Fragmentation/North-South Dynasties









Sui, Tang, Five Dynasties

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Song




Liao(Chinese population)



Jin(Chinese population)


Yuan(Chinese population)



Ming

[Wú Fēi]

Wonderful pictures!
Could you post the book's name?
I found it written in characters.
Perhaps I'll look for it in bookstores in mainland.

[General_Zhaoyun]

I like the Tang costumes the best..

[Gubook Janggoon]

Some good stuff here. I voted for ming.

I can see the Tang influences on Japanese clothing and the Han influence on Korean clothing is harder to see but very much visable. No Qing though?


I have the sudden urge to print these out and make paper dolls.

[浪淘音]

Some good stuff here.  I voted for ming.

I can see the Tang influences on Japanese clothing and the Han influence on Korean clothing is harder to see but very much visable.  No Qing though?
I have the sudden urge to print these out and make paper dolls.

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Qing clothes are an embarassment. it wouldn't be so bad if it only lasted during that time frame but the fact is that Chinese are still stuck with that stigma. and those loser merchants in Chinatown who sell Qing style clothes are not helping

i personally like the Three kingdoms and North-South dynsaty designs and hair styles the best.

[wlee15]

Qing clothes are an embarassment. it wouldn't be so bad if it only lasted during that time frame but the fact is that Chinese are still stuck with that stigma. and those loser merchants in Chinatown who sell Qing style clothes are not helping

i personally like the Three kingdoms and North-South dynsaty designs and hair styles the best.

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The major differences between Qing and Ming clothing is the use of buttons and narrow sleeves and horseshoe cuffs. Qing clothing generally isn't flashy but it was very utilitarian and considering most of the population were farmers and labourers the simplicity were appreciate. And your attitudes towards the tailors who make the clothing is very immature, they are preserving a rich and very important period of chinese culture.
And unless you the owner of the site, give credit to the person who found and put up the pictures.
http://www.library.u...i_amy/index.htm

[Gubook Janggoon]

Hmm...Qing Clothes don't look bad to me, they're just a bit tighter fitting then the others.

[浪淘音]

The major differences between Qing and Ming clothing is the use of buttons and narrow sleeves and horseshoe cuffs. Qing clothing generally isn't flashy but it was very utilitarian and considering most of the population were farmers and labourers the simplicity were appreciate. And your attitudes towards the tailors who make the clothing is very immature, they are preserving a rich and very important period of chinese culture.
And unless you the owner of the site, give credit to the person who found and put up the pictures.
http://www.library.u...i_amy/index.htm

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preserving an important period of Chinese history? all those goofy kung fu movies that take place during the Qing isn't enough? what about preserving the clothes that lasted from the late neolithic all the way until the early Qing?

[wlee15]

preserving an important period of Chinese history? all those goofy kung fu movies that take place during the Qing isn't enough? what about preserving the clothes that lasted from the late neolithic all the way until the early Qing?

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There are plenty of goofy kung fu movies set before Qing times, and considering your logic then you should be content in the way pre-Qing clothing is preserve. Plus preserving Qing clothing and pre-Qing clothing is not mutualy exclusive. What I don't like is you considering Qing clothing unimportant when it was a important part of Chinese life for 200+ years.

[浪淘音]

There are plenty of goofy kung fu movies set before Qing times, and considering your logic then you should be content in the way pre-Qing clothing is preserve. Plus preserving Qing clothing and pre-Qing clothing is not mutualy exclusive. What I don't like is you considering Qing clothing unimportant when it was a important part of Chinese life for 200+ years.

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Qing clothes are extremely well preserved already. In the minds of westerners and like i mentioned before, Chinatown merchants hock this stuff pretty frequently all over North America. You show a westerner a traditional Chinese robe and he/she'll most likely think it is japanese or korean, however you show her a "Cheongsam" and they'll think its a truely traditional Chinese dress. Trust me, i've tried this test already on many.

what i don't like is that you think the memory of Qing clothes actually needs to be protected because the imagery of it is extremely widespread even in China(look at Zhang Yi Mou's presentation at the closing event at the olympics for example)

by the way, i'm part Manchu on my paternal side so this isn't any sort of Han-centrism but Han Chinese found the adoption of manchu clothes and hairstyle to be humiliating. since you're talking about preserving a custom of 200 plus years of history, how about preserving a custom of 4000 plus years.

also, the clothes above are generally the clothes of aristocrats and middle class types. 武人 as well as peasents wore tighter fitting clothes adopted from nomads but it still remained at the core, traditional. Qing is the only conquest dynasty that imposed a dress code on native Han Chinese

[TMPikachu]

Qing should not be forgotten, but I do not think it should be the 'representative' of Chinese clothing. It's as Chinese as Japanese wearing western clothes in the 1800's.

They shouldn't be forgotten, but they have to be acknowledged as being foreign in origin (and under some unpleasant circumstances)

I'd be pushin' the Tang style clothes, especially those strapless dresses chicks wore, hot!

modern Changpao are just plain sexy, keep those.

[General_Zhaoyun]

Some good stuff here.  I voted for ming.

I can see the Tang influences on Japanese clothing and the Han influence on Korean clothing is harder to see but very much visable.  No Qing though?
I have the sudden urge to print these out and make paper dolls.

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Actually, the korean clothing (esp. the government officials) of Choson dynasty was very much similar to the Ming clothing..

[Gubook Janggoon]

Actually, the korean clothing (esp. the government officials) of Choson dynasty was very much similar to the Ming clothing..

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Yes the Official's clothing in Joseon were of Ming origion. The Qin-Han clothing though speaks more of the Middle class/ commoner clothing, and those of Koreans Pre-Joseon. From what I understand Vietnamese clothing is also heavily influenced by Ming styles no?