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[ShuHan]

HI, all

I would like to know if there are any pictures of the Age of Fragmentation armours and weaponry during that period because I'm kind of curious what kind of armours or weapon these people used and what kind of strategies or formations ?

Thank you

[Yun]

Julius posted a picture recently of Sui heavy cavalry and infantry fighting Koguryo heavy cavalry and light horse-archers. The style of both these armies is essentially the same as the Age of Fragmentation: heavy armoured riders and horses, and infantrymen with long spears and large shields to resist a cavalry charge.

See 26 Jan post by Julius: http://www.chinahist...0

[ShuHan]

Thank you Yun for the pictures

[Yun]

Basically, the armies of the Age of Fragmentation differed from the Three Kingdoms in the use of horse armour (which was quite rare in Three Kingdoms), the decline of crossbows, the enlarging of shields, the tighter cavalry and infantry formations, the gradual replacement of the ji pole-arm with the spear and lance, and the use of wagon laagers by infantry to deter cavalry attack.

[浪淘音]

Basically, the armies of the Age of Fragmentation differed from the Three Kingdoms in the use of horse armour (which was quite rare in Three Kingdoms), the decline of crossbows, the enlarging of shields, the tighter cavalry and infantry formations, the gradual replacement of the ji pole-arm with the spear and lance, and the use of wagon laagers by infantry to deter cavalry attack.

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huh? i thought heavy cavalry was used during three kingdoms era. the book 中國古代軍戎服飾 shows heavy cavalry (both sculpture and painting) during three kingdoms era

[ShuHan]

Hi, do you guys have the skeptical pictures of three kingdoms armours and the Age of Fragmentation armours. I would really like to see the difference between these two periods and how improve armours were since the Warring States period during the Zhou dynasty.

Thank you

[Yun]

huh? i thought heavy cavalry was used during three kingdoms era. the book 中國古代軍戎服飾 shows heavy cavalry (both sculpture and painting) during three kingdoms era

I have that book too, and it's quite clear from the evidence in the book that any horse armour in the Three Kingdoms was rudimentary and restricted to the top commanders. That doesn't mean they didn't use heavy cavalry (as in cavalry for charging rather than just skirmishing and horse-archery) - just that it wasn't as heavy as Age of Fragmentation cavalry.

Hi, do you guys have the skeptical pictures of three kingdoms armours and the Age of Fragmentation armours. I would really like to see the difference between these two periods and how improve armours were since the Warring States period during the Zhou dynasty.

If any of you guys who have the Osprey "Imperial Chinese Armies Part 1" can scan the relevant plates of Three Kingdoms and Northern Wei cavalry for Shu-Han to see, I'd appreciate it. Haven't got time to do scanning today.

[Liang Jieming]

try this I posted in another thread. It's a sampling mix of pictures from across the dynasties.

http://www.villageph...lder_id=1054902

[Yun]

OK, that will do great.

A Three Kingdoms cavalryman:

http://www.villageph...57826&selected=

A Northern Wei (Age of Frag) cavalryman:

http://www.villageph...57789&selected=

A Liang (Age of Frag) cavalryman:

http://www.villageph...57791&selected=

See the big difference?

[ShuHan]

wow, incredible pictures, but I wish there is more in-depths description about the armours they wear and how it protect. Also I would like in-depths artwork. I guess I'm asking to much, but this will do it. Wow, I love the North and South dynasty cavalry armours very impressive. I was wonder are there members have images or pictures like dynasty warriors type of drawing I'm very impressive of the game drawing.

[Liang Jieming]

wow, incredible pictures, but I wish there is more in-depths description about the armours they wear and how it protect.  Also I would like in-depths artwork.  I guess I'm asking to much, but this will do it. Wow, I love the North and South dynasty cavalry armours very impressive.  I was wonder are there members have images or pictures like dynasty warriors type of drawing I'm very impressive of the game drawing. 

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I'm still compiling my Pictorial Timeline Series on "The Chinese Warrior" from Shang to PRC. Should be good once I've finished. A lot of the images come from the Osprey books but many are compiled from other sources too (mainly just grabbed off the web ).

Jieming

[ShuHan]

Good Luck Liang Jieming and if you done can you upload or post it for us to see thank you.

[Liang Jieming]

Hehehe, ok thanks. I have at the moment 86 pictures on just this "Chinese Warrior" timeline, spread across the Shang to the PRC though half of them still need editting and that's taking me a long time since I've been rather lazy lately. But I did promise GZ I'll post them when I'm done so I'd better get cracking.

I get them from all over. Books, the net, photographs and not a few from this forum too. I've been posting them in my yahoo group for sorting though not all are there yet either.

Other pictorial timelines/collections I'm working on.
Scenes of Ordinary Life - 37
Military Armour -23
Photographs of Olden China - 90
Siege Machines - 42

[wuder]

OK, that will do great.

A Three Kingdoms cavalryman:

http://www.villageph...57826&selected=

A Northern Wei (Age of Frag) cavalryman:

http://www.villageph...57789&selected=

A Liang (Age of Frag) cavalryman:

http://www.villageph...57791&selected=

See the big difference?

Too bad these photo's doesn't work anymore.. I really wanted to see them..

Do you still have the photo's? Can u maybe send it to my email?