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#1 wlee15

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Posted 30 January 2005 - 09:02 PM

I've noticed that the interest in the revival of the Hanfu somewhat parallels the return of the Kilt back into Scottish culture in the 19th century. In the Kilt's case a new design that incorporate primarily the belt-below rapidly increased in popularity. So should Hanfu ethusiast start altering(substantially) the Hanfu to meet the modern world's need for praticality?

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Posted 30 January 2005 - 09:05 PM

The chinese clothings varies according to different dynastic period. The Hanfu (han clothings) will surely create a renaissance esp. among han chinese.
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 06:08 AM

In that case, it would be good to take note of Hugh Trevor-Roper's well-known argument that the 'revival' of Scottish kilts in the 19th century was really an 'invented tradition'. The great Scottish clans had never worn kilts, only the despised highlanders did so. So all the supposedly distinctive clan patterns of tartan were all made up.

What kinds of Hanfu are being considered for revival? Many that we're thinking about were only worn by aristocrats, and were impractical for much walking or physical work. Try even typing on a computer keyboard with long flowing sleeves! Also, we'd have to get used to buttoning our shirts on the right rather than on the left, since only the barbarians button on the left.
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 06:24 AM

In that case, it would be good to take note of Hugh Trevor-Roper's well-known argument that the 'revival' of Scottish kilts in the 19th century was really an 'invented tradition'. The great Scottish clans had never worn kilts, only the despised highlanders did so. So all the supposedly distinctive clan patterns of tartan were all made up.

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Hugh Trevor-Roper never liked the Highlanders, being from a high-Anglican church-going family in the county where I grew up (Northumberland) and marrying into the Lowland gentry (he married Earl Haig's daughter), so I'd use the word "despised" carefully, and most of the 'great Scottish clans' were from the Highlands, although my own was only a branch of the Campbells.
In fact, the kilts were not worn by Scots (whether in ireland or Scotland), but plaids were worn.
The point upon revival is correct though, with most of the tartans created by the author and PR supremo Sir Walter Scott to entertain the visiting king in Scotland, and from then the Royals love of Scotland spread the 'Highland' fashion, and today you will see people around the English-speaking world wearing kilts at weddings (whether or not they have Scots ancestry).
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 12:36 PM

Dude, okay about the Scottish Kilts and stuff because we are talking about the Han-fu please talk about Han-fu and not Scottish Kilts on this thread. yeah, I think we should revival han-fu and make it more modernize, but remain intact that will look like it is a Hanfu not so bizarre weird dress. I will buy one if they make one lol. It will be a major fashion trend especially in the East Asian world. Lol
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Posted 31 January 2005 - 12:39 PM

The chinese clothings varies according to different dynastic period. The Hanfu (han clothings) will surely create a renaissance esp. among han chinese.

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"Han Fu" is a general term for pretty much all the clothing before the Qing dynasty, its a misconception that "Han Fu" only refers to Han dynasty era clothing. Tang Zhuang is Han fu, Wu Fu is han Fu, etc,etc

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Posted 01 February 2005 - 04:18 AM

When living at a Taoist monastery, I wore the 'meditation robe' (Chinese style robe, length to foot and very long, flowing sleeves) while doing all sorts of things, from playing football to creating newsletters on computers.
You get used to it, and you can tuck up the ends of the robe into your belt so you can run.

ShuHan, the topic heading is 'Hanfu revival paralels to kilt revival?' so speakng about kilts seems totally fine to me.

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Posted 01 February 2005 - 10:55 AM

Hugh Trevor-Roper never liked the Highlanders, being from a high-Anglican church-going family in the county where I grew up (Northumberland) and marrying into the Lowland gentry (he married Earl Haig's daughter), so I'd use the word "despised" carefully, and most of the 'great Scottish clans' were from the Highlands, although my own was only a branch of the Campbells.
In fact, the kilts were not worn by Scots (whether in ireland or Scotland), but plaids were worn.
The point upon revival is correct though, with most of the tartans created by the author and PR supremo Sir Walter Scott to entertain the visiting king in Scotland, and from then the Royals love of Scotland spread the 'Highland' fashion, and today you will see people around the English-speaking world wearing kilts at weddings (whether or not they have Scots ancestry).


Thanks for that info, Caocao74. I knew Trevor-Roper was an arrogant man, but I didn't know he was such a snob too. No offense regarding the Highland clans either, ok?
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Posted 01 February 2005 - 05:16 PM

When living at a Taoist monastery, I wore the 'meditation robe' (Chinese style robe, length to foot and very long, flowing sleeves) while doing all sorts of things, from playing football to creating newsletters on computers.
You get used to it, and you can tuck up the ends of the robe into your belt so you can run.

ShuHan, the topic heading is 'Hanfu revival paralels to kilt revival?' so speakng about kilts seems totally fine to me.

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Wow, I wonder what that is like, living in a Taoist monastery. Can you tell us more?

#10 wlee15

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Posted 01 February 2005 - 05:43 PM

When living at a Taoist monastery, I wore the 'meditation robe' (Chinese style robe, length to foot and very long, flowing sleeves) while doing all sorts of things, from playing football to creating newsletters on computers.
You get used to it, and you can tuck up the ends of the robe into your belt so you can run.

ShuHan, the topic heading is 'Hanfu revival paralels to kilt revival?' so speakng about kilts seems totally fine to me.

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Any problems with cold weather?

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Posted 03 February 2005 - 09:07 AM

Wow, I wonder what that is like, living in a Taoist monastery.  Can you tell us more?

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Well, it's very, VERY different.
Not just because your daily habits (food, clothing, etc) change, and not just because you do new and unusual things (like meditiation [not necessarily just sitting quietly a la zazen, but also learning 'energy control' techniques, etc) but mostly because much that you took for granted about life/existence disappears (more through enetering v. unusual states than to verbal/written teachings, althought hese latter help the mind to open up to new ways).

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Posted 03 February 2005 - 09:13 AM

Any problems with cold weather?

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Hehe!

Well, the monastery moves from place to place (has no fixed point in space) and during the years I was there we were in S. France and Italy most of the time - but we didn't wear the meditation Robe all the time by any means - I just wore it a lot because 1) I loved wearing it and 2) I was a bit of a rebel (it wasn't the 'done' thing to wear it outside of meditation times; but I quoted the master: "Everything you do can be a meditation" and thus defeated the rules-mongerers...)

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 05:54 PM

I haven't heard of a revival of hanfu before. Where is it going on? What kind of clothes are being worn?
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Posted 07 February 2005 - 07:01 PM

So how big is this revival? Has it caught on with a lot of people?
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Posted 08 February 2005 - 02:10 AM

Make your own Han Fu. Then wear it. That's what i call Revival, make it, than use it.

I always wanted a Black/gold Ming Outfit..

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