Lu Su people a person who I would say should be admired he accoplished alot reguardless of the fact there is alot not noted as a feat. He was skilled as a politition, stratagist, he was a great envoy for Shu and without him, the events at Red Cliffs against Cao Cao may not have taken place.
Check out his biography on Historians of Heaven's Mandate
http://3kingdomsrtk....m.org/Lusu.html
An interesting fact about him is he was quite a big strong man who was skilled at swordmanship.
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, Sep 04 2008 05:23 AM
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Posted 04 September 2008 - 05:23 AM
With Strength To Lift Mountains And Spirit To Take On The World
Xiang Yu, Gai Xia Ge (Song)
Master Sun said
Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting.
The highest form of warfare is to attack stratagy itself.
羽望見良麾蓋，策馬刺良於萬眾之中，斬其首還，紹諸將莫能當者，遂解白馬圍。
Xiang Yu, Gai Xia Ge (Song)
Master Sun said
Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting.
The highest form of warfare is to attack stratagy itself.
羽望見良麾蓋，策馬刺良於萬眾之中，斬其首還，紹諸將莫能當者，遂解白馬圍。
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Posted 11 September 2008 - 12:06 PM
*points at username* =D
Thanks, Guan Yan!! I agree that he is an underappreciated individual of his time. Hes was directly centered around and observed the events that shaped an unforgettable era. =)
Thanks, Guan Yan!! I agree that he is an underappreciated individual of his time. Hes was directly centered around and observed the events that shaped an unforgettable era. =)
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 12:37 AM
*points at username* =D
Thanks, Guan Yan!! I agree that he is an underappreciated individual of his time. Hes was directly centered around and observed the events that shaped an unforgettable era. =)
Yes he was also very wise in he's disitions at the time Guan Yu had Jing.
With Strength To Lift Mountains And Spirit To Take On The World
Xiang Yu, Gai Xia Ge (Song)
Master Sun said
Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting.
The highest form of warfare is to attack stratagy itself.
羽望見良麾蓋，策馬刺良於萬眾之中，斬其首還，紹諸將莫能當者，遂解白馬圍。
Xiang Yu, Gai Xia Ge (Song)
Master Sun said
Ultimate excellence lies not in winning every battle but in defeating the enemy without ever fighting.
The highest form of warfare is to attack stratagy itself.
羽望見良麾蓋，策馬刺良於萬眾之中，斬其首還，紹諸將莫能當者，遂解白馬圍。
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Posted 12 November 2008 - 11:21 PM
I can only hope that a fool like me can live up to taking his namesake ^^ =P
Especially after learning more about him here. =)
Especially after learning more about him here. =)
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Posted 05 January 2009 - 05:18 AM
Lu Su people a person who I would say should be admired he accoplished alot reguardless of the fact there is alot not noted as a feat. He was skilled as a politition, stratagist, he was a great envoy for Shu and without him, the events at Red Cliffs against Cao Cao may not have taken place.
Check out his biography on Historians of Heaven's Mandate
http://3kingdomsrtk....m.org/Lusu.html
An interesting fact about him is he was quite a big strong man who was skilled at swordmanship.
When you read each bio of the ppl involved, it attributes credit to event such as Red Cliffs to that person eg in Zhou Yu's bio it attributes credit to him for Wu resisting Wei at Red Cliffs.
The alliance at Red Cliffs was a necessity for both sides, even if Lu Su did not visit Liu Bei, I am sure Liu Bei would have sent an envoy to Wu.
I respect Lu Su alot but if he lived longer as Commander in Chief, i feel Wu would have not gained anything in Jing. He was far too conservative to take on Guan Yu, as Sun Quan notes. It took Lu Xun & Lu Meng to alter the borders of Wu. I feel Lu Su could have maintained but not expand Wu significantly.
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