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[~Hsin_Hpyu_Shin~]

can your guess what ethnicity she is

i think as Longma pointed out previously that it would be wise to keep these guessing games out of this thread . Please try to stick to topic


thank you

[Gwailo]

i think as Longma pointed out previously that it would be wise to keep these guessing games out of this thread . Please try to stick to topic


thank you

oh well...

back on subject
one of the phenotypes of an average face of a filipina

[~Hsin_Hpyu_Shin~]

oh well...

back on subject
one of the phenotypes of an average face of a filipina

very pretty . tell me what percentage of pinays are that attractive ?

[Gwailo]

very pretty . tell me what percentage of pinays are that attractive ?

filipinas with similar features like this...maybe 30 to 40%

Indonesians also share the same phenotype from what I have seen

Edited by Gwailo, 10 September 2009 - 01:42 PM.

[~Hsin_Hpyu_Shin~]

Here are some interesting averages using a Myanmar league football team . I used 23 players in total ( 5 were excluded as they were signed players from abroad ).

I initially divided player origins by north and south ( Upper Burma and Lower Burma ) and got 5 and 4 players respectively . I excluded Yangon from Lower Burma as , being the largest city and former capital . people from Yangon pretty much come from all over. There were 10 in total from Yangon leaving 4 players whose origins are unknown in their biogs .

All 23 players have Bamar ( majority ethnicity ) names.




^ Lower Burma ( 4 players )



^ Upper Burma ( 5 players )



^ Yangon ( 10 players )



^ Unknown origin ( 4 players )





^ AVERAGE OF ALL 23


compare to previous average of non sporting men






Finally an average of some 50+ men ( footballers + previous non footballers )

[LongMa]

Average Japanese Actor



Average Chinese Actor



Average Korean Actor (Korean average age of actor slightly younger than Chinese or Japanese)

One thing I noticed is, as I showed before, the Chinese and Japanese actress composite looked almost the same, the difference is that the Japanese one looked more girlish, that's about it. The males look considerably different. I was not shocked by the Korean one, because the Korean actors had the least diversity in facial appearance of any group, but then again Korea is the most uniform society genetically and they have a small population, so that is not shocking.

The only other strange thing is that Chinese and Japanese male actors (unlike female) are not always very light complected, especially with the Japanese, some were tanned (probably purposefully). The Koreans males were all very "white skinned" but for one.

Edited by LongMa, 24 September 2009 - 08:26 AM.

[SNK_1408]

One thing I noticed is, as I showed before, the Chinese and Japanese actress composite looked almost the same, the difference is that the Japanese one looked more girlish, that's about it. The males look considerably different. I was not shocked by the Korean one, because the Korean actors had the least diversity in facial appearance of any group, but then again Korea is the most uniform society genetically and they have a small population, so that is not shocking.

The only other strange thing is that Chinese and Japanese male actors (unlike female) are not always very light complected, especially with the Japanese, some were tanned (probably purposefully). The Koreans males were all very "white skinned" but for one.

It depends on which actor photos you have used.
There are plenty of mid 40s Korean actors you could have used.
Koreans are practically most homogeneous out of East Asian group.

[~Hsin_Hpyu_Shin~]

what I find most interesting is that although Burmese unlike Koreans are not particularly homogenous the various permutations of averages do converge to become a particular look which is quite Burmese ( I guess this is the point of making averages especially if enough subjects are used )


Compare the average of the 10 Yangon born players ( likely varied background as yangon is larget metropolis )






with the average of the 5 Upper Burma players + 4 Lower Burma players = 9






and the average of 5 Upper + 4 Lower + 4 Unknown = 13

[LongMa]

It depends on which actor photos you have used.
There are plenty of mid 40s Korean actors you could have used.
Koreans are practically most homogeneous out of East Asian group.

I used all the popular ones under 35, like Won Bi, Rain, Kim Rae Won, Goong Yoo,HYUN BIN...etc. They look very similar to me. Not surprisingly, the Chinese have the biggest variation, the Hong Kong Idols and Mainland Chinese idols did not look a like for the most part, one could say they almost appeared as different ethnic groups, although all "Han". The Taiwanese idols tended to look like Japanese idols (at least the younger ones) or more like Mainland ones, then they looked like Hong Kong ones, at least the ones I sampled.

Anyway I got my ideas for Korean men to use from this site: http://www.crunchyro...e-korean-actor/

Edited by LongMa, 25 September 2009 - 07:14 AM.

[SNK_1408]

I used all the popular ones under 35, like Won Bi, Rain, Kim Rae Won, Goong Yoo,HYUN BIN...etc. They look very similar to me. Not surprisingly, the Chinese have the biggest variation, the Hong Kong Idols and Mainland Chinese idols did not look a like for the most part, one could say they almost appeared as different ethnic groups, although all "Han". The Taiwanese idols tended to look like Japanese idols (at least the younger ones) or more like Mainland ones, then they looked like Hong Kong ones, at least the ones I sampled.

Anyway I got my ideas for Korean men to use from this site: http://www.crunchyro...e-korean-actor/

Under 35 years of age from Korea, they all look younger than their age anyway.
Ofcourse, why would mixed Chinese actors from Hong Kong with mainland Chinese actors?
That's like mixing Italian with Germans and French.

Taiwan idols look like Japanese/Hong Kong/mainland Chinese idols because Taiwan follows their trends specially Japan & Hong Kong.

[2000pwc]

You cant use actors as a reference......... almost all of them have had some form of plastic surgery (believe it or not).

generally

Chinese
round face, larger eyes, white to brown skin, medium brow ridges, prominent eyes, medium height, medium cheekbones, often weak jaw, medium sized head

Japanese
medium face, smaller eyes, white to brown skin, medium brow ridges, prominent eyes, shorter height, higher cheekbones, prominent jaw, large sized head

Korean
narrow to medium face, smaller eyes, white to brown skin, medium brow ridges, prominent eyes, taller height, higher cheekbones, prominent jaw, medium sized head

i think from what i've seen koreans and japanese tend to look very similar, though japanese seem to have more prominent eyes (bulging eyes) like this:





bulging eyes is when you line up a straight finger from your cheekbone to your brows, if your finger lands on the eye, then that's prominent/bulging.

Koreans usually don't have bulging eyes



Korean eyes are usually more deep set, but still prominent compared to Europeans.

maybe the Jomon gave the Japanese bulging eyes..... I've noticed many Japanese people have this trait.

I tend to find Korean men and Japanese men to be very similar looking, whereas Japanese and Korean women are very different.

Edited by 2000pwc, 27 September 2009 - 09:14 AM.

[LongMa]

You cant use actors as a reference......... almost all of them have had some form of plastic surgery (believe it or not).

generally

I think we all know that, which is why I posted averages of normal people. I was just curious to see how the "ideal" diverged if at all. What I found is the manly ideal does, but the female one does not very much at all...which is somewhat surprising to me. Look back at the the entire thread, I posted averages of males and females from most places in East and Southeast Asia that are of ordinary people.

I actually agree with your last statement about Korean and Japanese men and women, which is why I found the differences in actors so strange.

Edited by LongMa, 27 September 2009 - 01:38 PM.

[SNK_1408]

Chinese
round face, larger eyes, white to brown skin, medium brow ridges, prominent eyes, medium height, medium cheekbones, often weak jaw, medium sized head

Japanese
medium face, smaller eyes, white to brown skin, medium brow ridges, prominent eyes, shorter height, higher cheekbones, prominent jaw, large sized head

Korean
narrow to medium face, smaller eyes, white to brown skin, medium brow ridges, prominent eyes, taller height, higher cheekbones, prominent jaw, medium sized head

I tend to find Korean men and Japanese men to be very similar looking, whereas Japanese and Korean women are very different.

You can't generalized people on looks, because looks can be change due to diet and condition they lived in.
What you were referring to it's physical features; more or less, NE Chinese, Koreans, Mongolian and Japanese share common physical features, we normally sum them up as NE Asians, and for the larger picture we include rest of Chinese and Taiwanese simply as East Asian.

I don't know about prominent eyes because I do have this type of eyes and I'm overseas Korean myself.
I have been often mistaken for being Japanese when I traveled even in Korea, mainly I do have different eyes.

And for Japanese and Korean people, I've found Korean women tends to be slightly larger/bigger than Japanese women, but in terms of facial feature, they look similar. But again this is do with where these women are from, regional difference make them look slightly different. There is big difference between SE Korean women to NW Korean women.

[2000pwc]

You can't generalized people on looks, because looks can be change due to diet and condition they lived in.
What you were referring to it's physical features; more or less, NE Chinese, Koreans, Mongolian and Japanese share common physical features, we normally sum them up as NE Asians, and for the larger picture we include rest of Chinese and Taiwanese simply as East Asian.

I don't know about prominent eyes because I do have this type of eyes and I'm overseas Korean myself.
I have been often mistaken for being Japanese when I traveled even in Korea, mainly I do have different eyes.

And for Japanese and Korean people, I've found Korean women tends to be slightly larger/bigger than Japanese women, but in terms of facial feature, they look similar. But again this is do with where these women are from, regional difference make them look slightly different. There is big difference between SE Korean women to NW Korean women.

What is the difference between SE Korean women and NW Korean women? Eyes?

Japanese do look Korean overall (those without heavy Jomonese influence). But very prominent eyes are a Japanese trait because i have seen many pictures of jomon and a lot of them do have big prominent eyes.

Edited by 2000pwc, 27 September 2009 - 08:26 PM.

[SNK_1408]

What is the difference between SE Korean women and NW Korean women? Eyes?

Japanese do look Korean overall (those without heavy Jomonese influence). But very prominent eyes are a Japanese trait because i have seen many pictures of jomon and a lot of them do have big prominent eyes.

Yes, eyes and nose.
Eyes are slightly larger in SE Korean women than these of NW Korean.
Skin color tends to be lot whiter than SE Koreans for NW Koreans.

I don't think Japanese have prominent eyes, just handful Japanese people I have seen have prominent eyes.
This is same for Koreans too.