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[Juchechosunmanse]

Ofcourse, why would mixed Chinese actors from Hong Kong with mainland Chinese actors?
That's like mixing Italian with Germans and French.

Why not mixing them? They are mostly Han Chinese, regardless of where they are from, mainland or HK, correct?

Are you saying to native Koreans (Koreans in DPRK and SK) overseas Koreans like Korean Americans etc. are like Germans to Italians?

[2000pwc]

This type of Japanese is one of the most common facial type in Japan. It is a mixture of Yayoi and Jomonese facial types.

Traits: more beard growth, larger eyes, curly hair, wider nose, thicker lips, lower face and lower stature.

Why not mixing them? They are mostly Han Chinese, regardless of where they are from, mainland or HK, correct?

Are you saying to native Koreans (Koreans in DPRK and SK) overseas Koreans like Korean Americans etc. are like Germans to Italians?

compare:

northern china


south china


That's a large difference. people can immediately tell the first woman is definitely from northern china/korea, whereas the second woman can only pass as southern chinese or maybe japanese (one on the left can pass as Japanese, the right one looks definite southern chinese). never korean.

Edited by 2000pwc, 28 September 2009 - 07:08 AM.

[~Hsin_Hpyu_Shin~]

What are your thoughts on these 3 averages ?

[JiangNanNin]

This type of Japanese is one of the most common facial type in Japan. It is a mixture of Yayoi and Jomonese facial types.

Traits: more beard growth, larger eyes, curly hair, wider nose, thicker lips, lower face and lower stature.



compare:

northern china


south china


That's a large difference. people can immediately tell the first woman is definitely from northern china/korea, whereas the second woman can only pass as southern chinese or maybe japanese (one on the left can pass as Japanese, the right one looks definite southern chinese). never korean.

The northern chinese look: seldom see northern chinese with such kind of eye-lid and so big a bit sunk eyes.
The southern chinese look:very typical northern chinese girl eyes but face a bit shorter.

[LongMa]

What are your thoughts on these 3 averages ?

Chinese, Japanese, and Korean? In that order?

Or is it Chinese from different regions?

Edited by LongMa, 28 September 2009 - 04:19 PM.

[SNK_1408]

Why not mixing them? They are mostly Han Chinese, regardless of where they are from, mainland or HK, correct?

Are you saying to native Koreans (Koreans in DPRK and SK) overseas Koreans like Korean Americans etc. are like Germans to Italians?

Please research yourself before replying my comment.
We all know Chinese people are very diverse people, there is big difference between Northern Han and Southern Han Chinese.

[~Hsin_Hpyu_Shin~]

Chinese, Japanese, and Korean? In that order?

Or is it Chinese from different regions?

it's actually 16 of my male relatives including myself and 2 older brothers mixed in different ways.

I used 6 people for each mix and chose for each average : 1 brother and 5 other male relatives ( excluding the other 2 brothers ) who look most like that brother ( slightly subjective of course and it also meant some photos were used more than once )

uncannily the averages still look like the 3 of us.


we're culturally Bamar and see ourselves as such but are essentially 6/16 Chinese ( different regions including Manchu I'm told ), 5/16 Shan ( different regions ) and 5/16 Bamar if we go back to what each great , great grandparent may have considered themselves as. By my grandparents generation they all just considered themselves as Bamar.


most of the other relatives are variously mixed like us in different proportions


here's an average of all 16



compare to the original average of mainly non celebrities "Burmese" ( this one did include 2 of the brothers )

[Gwailo]

he can't. he just used some pics that he selectively used for his Pseudoscience project, and claimed that this is your average (insert) face.

Do these kids looked mixed with SEAsian(malay) to you

Edited by Gwailo, 02 October 2009 - 01:19 PM.

[Juchechosunmanse]

Please research yourself before replying my comment.
We all know Chinese people are very diverse people, there is big difference between Northern Han and Southern Han Chinese.

Difference? Sure, but not great enough to consider them two different group of people, right? Even you pointed out there are so-called facial differences among Koreans (3 different types as I recall), are you saying they should not be mixed either? What, buknyonamnam is the way to go?

[SNK_1408]

Difference? Sure, but not great enough to consider them two different group of people, right? Even you pointed out there are so-called facial differences among Koreans (3 different types as I recall), are you saying they should not be mixed either? What, buknyonamnam is the way to go?

No, there are big difference.
This is why we often see DNA profiling of Beijing Han to Gaungdong Han.


Look at Koreans in China and Koreans in South Korea at above chart.
Comparing with Koreans is bad example because there aren't many Koreans compared to Chinese, totaling about 73 millions plus 6 million overseas Koreans. And Koreans today are basically product of Korean unity between Silla to Koryo. But I pointed out there are roughly three types of early settlers.

You still can't write in Korean don't you?

buknyonamnam? LoL, never heard this from someone called themselves as Korean.
You mean this? 남남북여?
'nam nam buk nyo,' and means 'South for men, North for women.'
It simply means South Korea have handsome men, North Korea have beautiful women.
Nothing do with describing ethnicity of Korea.

[Gyopo]

I am Korean but have always been mistaken for Japanese everywhere I go (including Korea) and many of my Korean friends thought I am Japanese when they first met me...even a Zainichi thought I'm Japanese when he first saw me.
However, I have family and friends who said vehemently that I look "very Korean" (in their words)
and that they can tell I am Korean right away by looking at me.
And yet, people in South East Asia always speak to me in Mandarin when I am there.
According to one of my Korean friends, I look very Korean but doesn't have a typical Korean look...yeah, I don't know what he means.
Thing is, as long as I don't speak, I can pass for Korean, Japanese or even Chinese (Northern Chinese) because of my fair skin, almond shaped eyes and high nose.

[SNK_1408]

^ there isn't such thing as "typical Korean look", if you going to describe the typical looks of Koreans, then Koreans would typically looking NE Asians (which includes; North Chinese, Mongolian, Japanese and Manchus etc..).

[JiangNanNin]

Typical mongolian belong to Mongloid-Northern asian type.

a enthic mongol star of china
comparing to the other mongoloid sub-group, the Northern asian tender to have a larger face including the face height and width, larger nose also including height and width;
Typical manju belong to Mongoloid-NE asian type

last emporer of china
Mongoloid NE asian type's feature is between mongoloid-Northern asian type and mongloid east asian type
Comparing to East asia type: they have a longer and wider face but comparing to Northern asian type they have a narrower face. their nose is taller than East asian type but narrower than Northern asian type
Typical chinese belong to mongoloid-east asian type(including both northern and southern chinese, the major difference between both is how much the SE asian feature they have)
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both face height and width is shorter than mongloid-EA type, narrow nose but lower than mongoloid-NE type
Japanese are very diversified, jomon belong to Thousand Island type, which is thought to be between mongoloid and austroloid.

[SNK_1408]

^ Your using just one photo from each ethnicity, Chinese, Mongolian, and Koreans are also very diverse.

[JiangNanNin]

Well,every enthic is very diversified.
Take manju as example, NEA type is the most typical manju, but except NEA type , there are also a lot of manju belong to typical east asian type, some even can pass for a typical cantonese.
But when we talk about average this is meaningless.


BTW I feel just divide chinese into N/S group is also meaningless.