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Weekly poem translation #11: 早春行 / 王维

Started by shunyadragon , Oct 19 2008 04:07 PM

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#31 Tang Scholar

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  • Interests:I am interested mainly in poetry and literature. I am not literate in Chinese, though I understand a few characters.
    Though I like poetry from everywhere and from every epoch, I like especially to learn about Tang poetry. Lately I have been studying two poets, one Tang (Bai Juyi) and the other Song (Li Qingzhao).
  • Languages spoken:Spanish, English, French, a bit German, a bit Japanese, a bit Chinese.
  • Ethnic Groups or Race:Latin American - that is, a mixture of everything.
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    Tang, Song and contemporary poetry

Posted 25 October 2008 - 09:02 AM

Well, I tried to find 黃鶯 in images of Google and found a painting of four, very nice. It is at the page
and there , perhaps, you can see if they are orioles or not. I can not read it (yet). See
http://blog.sina.com.cn/u/1409609655
There are a lot of orioles in Bai Juyi's spring poems translated by Arthur Waley, so it is a very poetic bird.
I will upload the painting here. The painting shows the birds with a red cap that the European photos do not show, so that maybe the Chinese 黃鶯 are an Eastern Asian variety of the orioles.
Eureka! See
http://www.01sosuo.c...heizheng_01.htm
There a picture of a bird identified as 黃鶯 and saying its scientific name is "Oriolis chinensis". I doubt the "ch", may be oriolus cinensis. But there is the photo. That's the bird.

I am adding this message so to upload the picture of the 黃鶯.
[Later I found there are "oriolus chinensis" and oriolus sinensis" but not "oriolus cinensis"]

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#32 shunyadragon

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Posted 26 October 2008 - 10:44 AM

I am adding this message so to upload the picture of the 黃鶯.
[Later I found there are "oriolus chinensis" and oriolus sinensis" but not "oriolus cinensis"]



Thank you for the pictures and the information on the Oriole. I suspect that there may be different birds in different regions of China that symbolize the first bird to sing in the spring. This is true for the flowers for the different lunar calender months Different regions use different flowers that fit the seasons.

It is time to consider selecting next weeks candidate for a poem. I would like to see Kaiselin recommend a poem, but he may be too busy with the CHF journal. Other possible candidates are Mok, John D, and Hailong, who have not yet recommended a poem.

Edited by shunyadragon, 26 October 2008 - 10:46 AM.

Frank

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#33 Tang Scholar

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  • Location:Cali, Colombia, a city of 2 million people, 4ºN, on a large mountain valley at 1000 m altitude, 120 km of the port of Buenaventura on the Pacific. Spanish is spoken here.
  • Interests:I am interested mainly in poetry and literature. I am not literate in Chinese, though I understand a few characters.
    Though I like poetry from everywhere and from every epoch, I like especially to learn about Tang poetry. Lately I have been studying two poets, one Tang (Bai Juyi) and the other Song (Li Qingzhao).
  • Languages spoken:Spanish, English, French, a bit German, a bit Japanese, a bit Chinese.
  • Ethnic Groups or Race:Latin American - that is, a mixture of everything.
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese Literature
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Tang, Song and contemporary poetry

Posted 26 October 2008 - 03:18 PM

It is time to consider selecting next weeks candidate for a poem. I would like to see Kaiselin recommend a poem, but he may be too busy with the CHF journal.



Recently Kaiselin made a short self-description for the CHF Newsletter. I quote from there:

"I am Kaiselin, a 54 year old woman, an artist of sorts. I paint historical and fantasy gaming miniatures, custom collector figures, some greeting cards, and assorted other bits of art that grab my fancy. My husband and I along with two children (now grown), 6 cats (way too many) are the resident eccentric nuts in the small very conservative rural village in northwest Ohio where we have lived for 20 years"

So you owe her apologies...

#34 shunyadragon

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  • Interests:Jade, Arts of the Way (Martial Arts), Oriental Gargens, Chinese culture and history, Chess (international, Chinese, Indian, Mongul, Korean, Turkish and Japanese). Artist
  • Languages spoken:English, Spanish, and marginal Chinese
  • Ethnic Groups or Race:Caucasian (Irish descent)
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    General Chinese Culture
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Jade Culture of the Orient, Oriental Gardens, poetry and Martial Arts

Posted 26 October 2008 - 07:15 PM

Recently Kaiselin made a short self-description for the CHF Newsletter. I quote from there:

"I am Kaiselin, a 54 year old woman, an artist of sorts. I paint historical and fantasy gaming miniatures, custom collector figures, some greeting cards, and assorted other bits of art that grab my fancy. My husband and I along with two children (now grown), 6 cats (way too many) are the resident eccentric nuts in the small very conservative rural village in northwest Ohio where we have lived for 20 years"

So you owe her apologies...


Sorry, I did not know he was she.
Frank

Go with the flow the river knows.

化干戈为玉帛 Turn weapons into peace and friendship with gifts of jade-silk.

www.shunyadragon.com

#35 Tang Scholar

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  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cali, Colombia, a city of 2 million people, 4ºN, on a large mountain valley at 1000 m altitude, 120 km of the port of Buenaventura on the Pacific. Spanish is spoken here.
  • Interests:I am interested mainly in poetry and literature. I am not literate in Chinese, though I understand a few characters.
    Though I like poetry from everywhere and from every epoch, I like especially to learn about Tang poetry. Lately I have been studying two poets, one Tang (Bai Juyi) and the other Song (Li Qingzhao).
  • Languages spoken:Spanish, English, French, a bit German, a bit Japanese, a bit Chinese.
  • Ethnic Groups or Race:Latin American - that is, a mixture of everything.
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese Literature
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Tang, Song and contemporary poetry

Posted 27 October 2008 - 01:14 PM

Shunyadragon,
would you please contact your candidate(s) so that one of them agree and post the new poem? I feel worried because it is already monday...
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#36 shunyadragon

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  • Location:Hillsborough, NC
  • Interests:Jade, Arts of the Way (Martial Arts), Oriental Gargens, Chinese culture and history, Chess (international, Chinese, Indian, Mongul, Korean, Turkish and Japanese). Artist
  • Languages spoken:English, Spanish, and marginal Chinese
  • Ethnic Groups or Race:Caucasian (Irish descent)
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    General Chinese Culture
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Jade Culture of the Orient, Oriental Gardens, poetry and Martial Arts

Posted 27 October 2008 - 04:23 PM

Shunyadragon,
would you please contact your candidate(s) so that one of them agree and post the new poem? I feel worried because it is already monday...
Tang Scholar


I have sent each a message to the select honored short list for a poem translation. Awaiting a response.
Frank

Go with the flow the river knows.

化干戈为玉帛 Turn weapons into peace and friendship with gifts of jade-silk.

www.shunyadragon.com

#37 Tang Scholar

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  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cali, Colombia, a city of 2 million people, 4ºN, on a large mountain valley at 1000 m altitude, 120 km of the port of Buenaventura on the Pacific. Spanish is spoken here.
  • Interests:I am interested mainly in poetry and literature. I am not literate in Chinese, though I understand a few characters.
    Though I like poetry from everywhere and from every epoch, I like especially to learn about Tang poetry. Lately I have been studying two poets, one Tang (Bai Juyi) and the other Song (Li Qingzhao).
  • Languages spoken:Spanish, English, French, a bit German, a bit Japanese, a bit Chinese.
  • Ethnic Groups or Race:Latin American - that is, a mixture of everything.
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese Literature
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Tang, Song and contemporary poetry

Posted 27 October 2008 - 06:38 PM

I have sent each a message to the select honored short list for a poem translation. Awaiting a response.

Fine, thanks.
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