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#16 JohnD

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 05:21 PM

Remember that for Europaean church, it was important to christen all live born children, including those who died in infancy, and they often created records of that. But who cared in China?

On the other hand, Tang China ought to have detailed population data because they had well-field system.

Did the Tang censuses count only taxpaying adults, or all souls? In the well-field system, did unproductive mouths, such as children and elderly, get any land or tax breaks? At which age was an otherwise healthy Tang peasant officially old and liable to have his well-field land taken away?


The elderly was classified as 60 years and older. However, land was not reclaimed by the government until death. However, the amount of land was reduced as a person reached elderly status. As Victor Cenrui Xiong stated, "From the state's point of view, as the adult man became elderly male, his grant had to be reduced because he would become less productive and tax-exempt."1

The fact that there was a population classification that was at 60 years and older, it is evident that it was reasonable that people should live that long. One thing to remember when people talk about life expectancy, is that infant deaths are going to skew the numbers, so that it becomes much more difficult to determine just how long people lived. Of the 30 households studies in Xiong's paper, only four elderly men were the heads of households. That doesn't take into account elderly women, however.

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1.Xiong, Victor Cenrui. 1999. "The Land Tenure-System of Tang China: A Study of the Equal-Field System and the Turfan Documents." T'oung Pao, Second Series, Vol. 85, Fasc. 4/5, pg. 372. Brill
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 08:11 AM

Looking at the top of the society, the Emperors are a well-defined set with usually reasonably documented birthdate.

Gaozu - natural death age 68 or 69, after overthrow
Taizong - natural death age 50
Gaozong - natural death age 55
Zhongzong - died age 53, allegations of poisoning are unprovable
Ruizong - natural death age 54, after overthrow
Shang Di - age unknown, natural death aged 16 or 19 after overthrow
Xuanzong - natural death aged 76 after overthrow
Suzong - natural death aged 51
Daizong - natural death aged 52
Dezong - natural death aged 62
Shunzong - natural death aged 44 or 45 after overthrow
Xianzong - died age 41 or 42, allegations of poisoning are unprovable
Muzong - natural death aged 28 or 29
Jingzong - violent death
Wenzong - natural death aged 30
Wuzong - natural death aged 31
Xuanzong - natural death aged 49
Yizong - natural death aged 39
Xizong - accidental death aged 27
Zhaozong - violent death
Aidi - violent death

Out of the 18, after excluding the 3 who died violently, only 3 lived past 60. In 270 years, 618 to 888 (excluding the last two because of their violent deaths) there were only 28 years that there was a Tang emperor or ex-emperor living after 60.

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Posted 16 April 2010 - 10:51 AM

Looking at the top of the society, the Emperors are a well-defined set with usually reasonably documented birthdate.

Gaozu - natural death age 68 or 69, after overthrow
Taizong - natural death age 50
Gaozong - natural death age 55
Zhongzong - died age 53, allegations of poisoning are unprovable
Ruizong - natural death age 54, after overthrow
Shang Di - age unknown, natural death aged 16 or 19 after overthrow
Xuanzong - natural death aged 76 after overthrow
Suzong - natural death aged 51
Daizong - natural death aged 52
Dezong - natural death aged 62
Shunzong - natural death aged 44 or 45 after overthrow
Xianzong - died age 41 or 42, allegations of poisoning are unprovable
Muzong - natural death aged 28 or 29
Jingzong - violent death
Wenzong - natural death aged 30
Wuzong - natural death aged 31
Xuanzong - natural death aged 49
Yizong - natural death aged 39
Xizong - accidental death aged 27
Zhaozong - violent death
Aidi - violent death

Out of the 18, after excluding the 3 who died violently, only 3 lived past 60. In 270 years, 618 to 888 (excluding the last two because of their violent deaths) there were only 28 years that there was a Tang emperor or ex-emperor living after 60.


Empress Wu Zetian was 80 when she died. Gao Lishi, Xuanzong's chief eunuch, was 78.

Wenzong, who died at 30, had many chancellors who lived much longer. Such as:

Pei Du - 74
Wang Bo - 71
Niu Sengru - 69
Li Deyu - 63
Yang Sifu - 65
Li Jue - 68

Muzong, who was 28 or 29, also had chancellors who lived longer:

Linghu Chu - 71
Duan Wenchang - 62
Du Yuanying - 64
Li Fengji - 77

The point is, just using a list of emperors for a given dynasty is not sufficient for determining the average lifespan of the populace. And it is clear that emperors, even as privileged as they were, did not always live as long as their subordinates.
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Posted 16 April 2010 - 06:57 PM

Many tang poets i know died a very old age. It seems people who survive in their infancy would normally have an age more than 40s.

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 03:47 AM

The life expectancy of people during every dynasty has been covered extensively by the volumous works "Zhongguo Renkou Tongshi" published in mainland China. After taking a statistical examination of the different ages for various figures in Han times, the typical life expectancy of people in the Eastern Han was estimated to be somewhere in the mid 30s. In periods of prosperity in early Qing, the life expectancy might have reached the late 30s, or around 37-38. I do not own the volume on Tang population, but I assume it is around that range.

Edited by Borjigin Ayurbarwada, 15 July 2010 - 04:01 AM.





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