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Posted 05 September 2009 - 07:42 AM

it might be a good idea to split the thread up since you have mixed several subjects that really haven't that much to do with each other.

The subjects I have stated, in this thread, is in regards to the interesting part of Chinese science which most people don't really know about.

You have Engineering which demands a thread of its own since it has little to do with science as such other than applied science that is.

Engineering has much to do with science. Apart from applied science, enginering capability demostrates the foundation a nation science.

You have Historical *Maybes* (Menzies et al) which lets be honest have nothing to do with science except to confirm or debunk said Historical postulations/facts.

The fact that the Chinese were the first discover and circum-navigated the world is infact a great scientific discovery and achivement. The is a demonstatin of a nation that is advance in learning and technology.

Then you have science in the broad sense, + some claims that is not altogether true.IE They really can't be proved and should have been place in a thread by them self, such as the origin of steel manufacturing (Bessemer process in particulary) and the first production of same.
This doesn't mean that you are wrong, just that your (Or others) claim are unverifiable in the practical sense.

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Posted 05 September 2009 - 09:04 AM

From Vision to the World's Largest Dam

Of the Great Yangtze River of China flowed a great vision but Dr Sun Yat-sen, the founding father of modern China. Dr Sun saw the tremendous economic benefits of building a dam on the Yangtze as a part of his economic development plan for an underdevloped China. Dr. Sun was particularly interested in using the vast hydropower resources of the river to produce the electricity needed to build factories for making artificial fertilizer, the only means he could envision for China to make the leap in agricultural productivity needed to feed its growing population.

He also saw the area of the gorges as the most suitable spot for building a dam to generate that electricity. Dr. Sun further elaborated on this idea in 1924, in a lecture he gave on his "Third Principle of the People, Peoples' Livelihood":

Consider the tremendous water power in the Kui Gorges of the upper Yangtze. Some who have studied the stretch of river between Ichang [Yichang] and Wanshien [Wanxian] estimate that the water power there could generate over thirty million electrical horsepower. Such an immense power is much greater than that produced at present in any country. It would not only supply all the railways, electric lines, and factories in the country with power, but it could be used to manufacture staple fertilizers.

Consider again the Yellow River which at Lungmen Waterfalls could also generate many million electrical horse power. You see how great are China's natural resources! If the water power in the Yangtze and Yellow rivers could be utilized by the newest methods to generate electric power, about one hundred million horse power might be obtained. Since one horse power is equivalent to the power of eight strong men, one hundred million horse power would be equivalent to eight hundred million man power. A man works eight hours a day, according to the law in most countries; a longer working-day is injurious to the worker's health and lessens production. . . Man power can be used only eight hours a day, but mechanical horse power can be used all twenty-four hours. This means that one horse-power for a day and night accomplishes as much work as twenty-four men. If we could make use of the Yangtze and the Yellow river water power to generate a hundred million horse power, or twenty-four hundred million man power, and let this great electrical energy work for us, China would produce a great deal, and would certainly turn her poverty into riches.

In 1932, seven years after Dr. Sun's death, the Construction Committee of the Kuomintang, a party founded by Dr. Sun, which took power in 1927, organized a prospecting team to survey the hydroelectric power generation of the upper reaches of the Yangtze River. The team examined several alternative plans and recommended dams at one of two possible sites, at Huanglingmiao and at Gezhouba. The project was to include a 12.8-meter-high water-head dam with an installed generating capacity of 300 megawatts (MW), and equipped with shiplocks.

Because the nation was not peaceful, it was not until December 14th 1994, when construction began. The dam was expected to be fully operational in 2009, but due to additional projects such as the underground power plant with 6 additional generators, and due to the complexity of the ship lift, the dam is not expected to become fully operational until about 2011. The dam raised the water level the third time to 172.5 meters by the end of year 2008. The dam is entirely designed by Chinese Engineers.

The project costs 180 billion yuan, over 20 billion yuan less than the initial estimated budget of 203.9 billion yuan, just under 30 billion USD. This is because the calculation accounts for the effect of inflation, and the lower costs are attributed to a low inflation rate in recent years. Until the end of 2008, the total investment reached 148.365 billion yuan, among which, 64.613 billion yuan on construction, 68.557 billion yuan on the relocation of affected residents and 15.195 billion yuan was spent on the interests of financing. It is estimated that the cost of construction will be recovered when the dam has generated 1000 TWh of electricity, which is estimated to sell for 250 billion yuan.

The Three Gorges Dam is the world’s largest hydro-electric power station by total capacity, which will be 22,500 MW. It will have 34 generators. 32 will be main generators, each with a capacity of 700 MW, and the other 2 will be plant power generators, each with capacity of 50 MW. Among those 32 main generators, 14 of them are installed in the north side of the dam, 12 in the south side and the remaining 6 in the underground powerplant in the mountain south of the dam. After completion, the expected annual electricity generation will be over 100 TWh,18% more than the originally predicted 84.7 TWh, since 6 generators were added in 2002.

Each of the main generators weighs about 6000 tonnes and are designed to produce at least 700 MW of power. The designed head of the generator is 80.6 m. The flow rate varies between 600 m3/s to 950 m3/s depending on the head available. The Three Gorges Dam project installs Francis turbines. The diameter of the turbine is 9.7/10.4 m (VGS design/Alstom's design). It rotates at a speed of 75 rpm. The normal rated power of the generator is 778 MVA. The maximum power is 840 MVA. The power factor is 0.9. The generator produces electrical power at 20 kV. The outer diameter of the generator stator is 21.4/20.9 m. The inner diameter is 18.5/18.8 m. The height of the stator is 3.1/3 m. It is the biggest stator in the world. The load at the bearing is 5050/5500 tonnes. The average efficiency of the generators is over 94%, and the highest is 96.5%. More than 8 of the 32 generators are made in China. Most of the generators are water-cooled. Some newer ones are air-cooled, which are simpler in design, manufacture and easier to maintain.
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The total capacity of the plant is currently at 18.30 GW. The 14 generators in the north side of the dam have already been installed. The first one (No.2 ) started to power on July 10, 2003. The last one (No.9) started to power on September 7, 2005. All of the 14 generators first ran to full power (9800 MW) on October 18, 2006 after the water level had been raised to 156 m.
The 12 generators in the south side of the dam have already been installed. The first generator (No. 22) in the south side of the dam started working on June 11, 2007. The last generator (No. 15) on the south side of the dam was completed and brought to the power grid on Oct.30, 2008. The sixth generator in the south side (No. 17) started working on December 18, 2007. It brought the total capacity of the dam to 14.1 GW, surpassing the generating capacity of Itaipu (14.0 GW), to become the largest hydroelectric power plant in the world. The seventh generator in the south side (No. 17) started working on December 27, 2007. The eighth generator in the south side (No. 24) started working on April 25, 2008. The ninth generator in the south side (No. 19) started working on June 18, 2008. The tenth generator in the south side (No. 16) started working on July 2, 2008. The eleventh generator in the south side (No. 23) started working on August 19, 2008.

Added to the project in 2002, the underground power plant and its six generators are still under construction. As of July 1, 2009 the Three Gorges Dam Project had generated 319.9 TWh of electricity, almost one third of the 1000 TWh it needs to generate to cover the cost (see Economics). With 18,300 MW installed capacity, the generation capacity of the Three Gorges Dam Project is about 4,300 MW more than that of the Itaipu Dam. In July 2008, the Three Gorges Dam generated 10.3 TWh of electricity, the first time it has generated more than 10 TWh in a month. On June 30, 2009, after the Yangtze River flow rate increased to over 24000 m3/s, all the 26 main generators were switched on, producing 16,100 MW of power, which is less than the maximum capacity, 18,300 MW, because the head available during flood season is less than the required to reach the maximum capacity. During a flood occurred in early August, 2009, the Three Gorges Dam main generators reached their design maximum output of 1820 MW the first time for a short period of time, thanks to the elevated upstream water level and the large river flow.

During dry season from November to May next year, the Three Gorges Dam power output is limited by the Yangtze River's flow rate, as seen from the diagrams on the right. During the flood season when there is enough flow, the power output is limited by the plant generating capacity. The maximum possible power output curves were calculated based on the average flow rate at the dam site, assuming the water level is at 175 m and the plant gross efficiency is 90.15%. The actual power output in the year of 2008 was obtained based on the monthly electricity sent to the grid. The data came from the State Grid Corporation. There are several reasons why the actual power output is significantly smaller than the maximum power output. First, the dam was not operating at 175 m for the most time of the year 2008, thus the water flow though the dam has less potential energy to produce electricity. During the flood season, in order to make room for the flood, the dam lowered the water level to 145 m. Second, a few generators were being installed in 2008 thus the plant have not reached its current capacity until the end of the year. Also, the number might be slightly smaller than the total electricity generated in the table below because the diagrams on the right is based on the electricity sent to the power grid while the table is based on total electricity generated.

Power is sent in three directions. The 500 kV DC transmission line to the East China Grid has a capacity of 7,200 MW. There are three 500 kV DC transmission lines: HVDC Three Gorges-Shanghai (3,000 MW), HVDC Three Gorges-Changzhou (3,000 MW) and HVDC Gezhouba - Shanghai (1,200 MW). The 500 kV AC transmission lines to Central China Grid have a total capacity of 12,000 MW. The 500 kV DC transmission line HVDC Three Gorges-Guangdong to South China Grid has a capacity of 3,000 MW and supplies Guangdong.

In the original plan, it was expected to provide 10% of electricity consumption in China. However, China’s demand for electricity has increased at a higher rate than was planned, and if fully operational now, it would support about 3% of the total electricity consumption in China.

The Three Gorges Dam will potentially reduce the coal consumption by 31 million tonnes per year, cutting the emission of 100 million tonnes of greenhouse gas,[48] millions of tonnes of dust, 1 million tonnes of sulfur dioxide, 370 thousand tonnes of nitric oxide, 10 thousand tonnes of carbon monoxide and a significant amount of mercury into the atmosphere.[49] The elimination of the fossil fuel also reduces the energy consumption in mining, washing and transporting about 31 million tons of coal from northern China to the load centre in south and east China.

Since the dam started generating power on July 10, 2003, total power production is equivalent to 84 million tonnes of standard coal and reduces carbon dioxide emission by 190 million tons, sulfur dioxide by 2.29 million tonnes and nitroxides by 980,000 tonnes.

From 2004 to 2007 a total of 198 million tonnes of goods passed through the Three Gorges Dam ship locks. The freight capacity of the river increased 6 times and the cost of shipping reduced by 25%, compared to previous years, which reduces carbon dioxide emission by 630,000 tonnes. Comparing to highway transportation, the amount of fuel that Three Gorges Dam project saved between the year of 2004 and 2007 is equivalent to 4,100,000 tonnes of standard coal. Thus it reduces carbon dioxide emission by 10 million tonnes.

Since the construction of the Three Gorges Dam, many waste water treatment plants have been completed to reduce water pollution coming from the largely populated city of Chongqing and its suburban areas. According to the country's Ministry of Environmental Protection; until April 2007, there have been more than 50 waste water treatment plants installed with their total capacity reaching 1.84 million tonnes per day. More than 65% of the waste water is treated before being dumped into the Three Gorges Dam reservoir. About 32 land sites deposit were completed and could handle 7,664.5 tonnes of solid waste every day.

“The FAO’s research suggests that the Asia-Pacific region will, overall, gain about 6,000 square km of forest in 2008. That is quite a turnaround from the 13,000 square km net loss of forest each year in the 1990s. The main reason is China’s huge reforestation effort. This accelerated after terrible floods in 1998 convinced the government that it must restore tree cover, especially in the mighty Yangtze’s basin” upstream of the Three Gorges Dam.

The most significant function of the dam is to control flooding, which is a major problem for the seasonal river of the Yangtze. Millions of people are living downstream of the dam, with many large, important cities like Wuhan, Nanjing and Shanghai situated adjacent to the river. Plenty of farm land and the most important industrial area of China are built beside the river.
The reservoir's flood storage capacity is 22 km3(18 million acre feet, 1 km3 = 1 billion cubic meter). This capacity will reduce the frequency of major downstream flooding from once every 10 years to once every 100 years. With the dam, it is expected that major floods can be controlled. If a "super" flood comes, the dam is expected to minimize its effect. In 1954 the river flooded 193,000 km2 (74,518 sq mi) of land, killing 33,169 people and forcing 18,884,000 people to move. The flood covered Wuhan, a city with 8 million people, for over three months, and the Jingguang Railway was out of service for more than 100 days.[56] In the event of a recurrence of the 1954 flood that carried 50 billion m3 of water, the Three Gorges Dam could only divert the water above Chenglingji, still leaving 30 to 40 billion m3 of flood water to be diverted. Also the dam will not protect the large tributaries such as the Xiangjiang, Zishui, Yuanshui, Lishui, Hanjiang, and Ganjiang from flooding, due to the location of the dam.

In early August 2009, the largest flood in five years passed through the dam site. The dam demonstrated its ability to control the flood by limiting the water flow to less than 40,000 cubic meter per second, thus raising the water level upstream of the dam from 145.13 meters on August 1, 2009 to 152.88 on August 8,2009. The total amount of flood water reserved was 4,270,000,000 cubic meters and the river flow was cut by 15,000 cubic meter per second at the most.

The Dam discharges its reservoir during the dry season between December and March every year. This increases the flow rate of the river downstream, and provides more fresh water for agricultural and industrial usage. It also improves the navigation conditions during dry season. The water level upstream drops from 175 m to 145 m, leaving room for the flooding season. This also increases the power output of the Gezhouba Dam downstream.

Since the filling of the reservoir in 2003, the Three Gorges Dam had supplied an extra of 11 billion cubic meter of fresh water to downsteam cities and farms during dry season, mitigated the effect of drought and improved navigation.

The installation of ship locks is intended to increase river shipping from 10 million to 100 million tonnes annually, with transportation costs cut by 30 to 37%. Shipping will become safer, since the gorges are notoriously dangerous to navigate. Each of the two ship locks is made up of 5 stages taking around 4 hours in total to transit and have a capacity of vessels of 10,000 tons. Critics argue, however, that heavy siltation will clog ports such as Chongqing within a few years based on the evidence from other dam projects.

The locks are designed to be 280 m long, 35 m wide, and 5 m deep (918 x 114 x 16.4 ft). That is 30 m longer than those on the St Lawrence Seaway, but half as deep. Before the dam was constructed, the maximum freight capacity of the river at the Three Gorges site was 18.0 million tonnes per year. From year 2004 to 2007, there were total of 198 million tonnes of freight passed through the Three Gorges Dam ship locks. The freight capacity of the river increased 6 times and the cost of shipping reduced by 25%, comparing to the previous years. The total capacity of the ship locks is expected to reach 100 million tonnes.
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In addition to the canal locks, the Three Gorges Dam will be equipped with a ship lift, a kind of elevator for vessels.The ship lift is designed to be capable of lifting ships of up to 3,000 tons, having been reduced from the original plans where the ship lift was going to have the capacity to lift vessels of up to 11,500 tons displacement. The vertical distance travelled will be 113 metres, and the size of the ship lift's basin will be 120x18x3.5 meters.The ship lift, when completed, will take 30 to 40 minutes to ascend or descend, as opposed to the three to four hours for stepping through the main locks. One of the complicating factors the design has to deal with is that the water level can vary dramatically. The ship lift had to be designed to work properly even if the water levels that varied by 12 meters on the lower side, and 30 meters on the upper side.

The Three Gorges Dam is not only the largest hydroelectric power dam but the largest dam in the world.

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Posted 06 September 2009 - 09:13 AM

The Worlds Largest Airport

China spent 4 years to build the world's largest Airport, the Beijing Airport. It was build for the vast amount of passengers who come all the way to watch the 2008 Olympic games and was finished, just in time for the 2008 Olympics. The airport turned out to be a very efficient building in terms of in terms of operational efficiency, passenger comfort, sustainability and access to natural light.

Located between the existing eastern runway and the future third runway, Terminal 3 and the Ground Transportation Centre (GTC) together enclose a floor area of approximately 1.3 million m2, mostly under one roof. The first building to break the one million square meter barrier, it will accommodate an estimated 50 million passengers per annum by 2020.

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Although conceived on an unprecedented scale, the building’s design aims to resolve the complexities of modern air travel, combining spatial clarity with high service standards. It will be friendly and uplifting for the passenger as well as easy to navigate. Comprising three connected, light-filled volumes – T3A, B and C – the simple, symmetrical diagram fans out at either end to accommodate the arrivals and departure halls for T3A (processing terminal and domestic gates) and T3B (international gates). The satellite T3C (domestic gates) occupies the centre of the diagram. This arrangement is an efficient means of maximising the perimeter, so increasing the capacity for aircraft stands, while maintaining a highly compact and sustainable footprint.

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Although the length from north to south is three and a quarter kilometres, the visual links between the three elements are maintained by strong sight lines as well as visual connections between the lower level and an open mezzanine level above. All spaces are naturally lit and the generous glazing and skylights maintain a link with the outside and its changing sky. Views along the central axis are marked by the distinctive red columns, which continue along the external edges of the building into the distance, evocative of traditional Chinese temples.

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The embracing curved cantilever of the terminal greets passengers arriving by road or from the GTC in a single welcoming gesture. Departures and arrivals are on separate levels. The traditional airport diagram has been inverted at T3B, with arrivals on the upper level, to allow visitors to Beijing to experience the thrill of this dramatic space from the best vantage point.

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The single unifying roof canopy is perforated with skylights to aid orientation and bring daylight deep into the building. The colour palette moves through 16 tones from red at the entrance at T3A through to orange and finally yellow at the far end of T3B. This establishes a subtle zoning system that breaks down the scale of the building and enables easy wayfinding. This palette is also applied north to south in the ceiling above the arrivals and departures halls, heightening the sense of curvature in the roof plane.

Connections between T3A and T3B take place on a high speed automated people mover (APM) which travels at up to 80kph, with a journey time of just two minutes. The APM is easily accessed from the main departure level and set within a landscaped ‘green’ cutting, exposed to daylight and views up and through the building, all of which helps to maintain a sense of orientation.

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The roof is a steel space frame with triangular roof lights and coloured metal decking. It curves, rising at the midpoint to create a dramatic central cathedral-like space, and tapering towards the edges of the building to provide more intimate areas as passengers travel towards the gates and the aircraft piers. The trusses that support the glazing echo the changing colour system in the roof – shifting from red to orange to yellow. The high transparency of the curtain walling is made possible by extra large mullions, which are generously spaced to allow larger spans of suspended glazing.

The terminal building is one of the world’s most sustainable, incorporating a range of passive environmental design concepts, such as the south-east orientated skylights, which maximise heat gain from the early morning sun, and an integrated environment-control system that minimises energy consumption. Rather than the sprawl of many separate buildings, it uses less land by bringing everything closer together for ease of communication in one efficient structure, yet it is still 17% bigger than the combined floorspace of all of Heathrow’s terminals 1, 2, 3, 4 and the new Terminal 5. In construction terms, its design optimised the performance of materials selected on the basis of local availability, functionality, application of local skills, and low cost procurement.

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Posted 07 September 2009 - 07:17 AM

China leads world in recycling major nonferrous metals

China is ahead of the world in the recycling of major non-ferrous metals and it was an area in which there had been rapid development, said participants at an international forum concluded Monday in eastern China's Jiangxi province.

This was part of China's efforts to maintain sustainable economic growth, improve the efficient use of resources and lessen environmental pollution.

In 2008 China ranked the first in the world in the consumption of recycled copper, using approximately 2 million tonnes, or 30 percent of its total annual copper consumption.

China also used 3 million tonnes of recycled aluminum, or 20 percent of its annual consumption; and nearly 1 million tonnes of recycled lead, 25 percent of consumption in 2008.

The figures place China the second in the world in terms of annual consumption of recycled aluminum and lead.

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Posted 09 September 2009 - 07:17 AM

The Taiwan Province Flat Panel Industry is World’s No. 1

Taiwan’s flat panel industry has become the world’s largest, both in terms of production value and shipments.

Taiwan’s flat panel display production is expected to reach US$40.379 billion by the end of 2007, higher than the US$34.51 billion expected for Korea and US$22.548 for Japan, said Chung Chun-yuan, analyst with ITRI’s Industry and Technology Intelligence Services (ITIS).

For panels 10 inches or larger, Taiwan has the highest global market share of 48.7 percent, higher than South Korea’s 37.7 percent and Japan’s 9.5 percent.

In terms of global shipments of large-size panels, Taiwan has registered 46.5 percent, higher than Korea’s 41.1 percent and Japan’s 4.5 percent.

In terms of shipments of LCD monitor panels and LCD TV panels, Taiwan has registered 53.9 percent and 42.8 percent, respectively, both higher than Korea’s 32.1 percent and 41.6 percent.

Chung also pointed out that Korea’s two major manufacturers, Samsung and LG, both rely on Taiwan supplies. Samsung, for example, gets 50 percent of its LCD TV panels from Taiwan, breaking down into 29.8 percent from AU Optronics, 16.1 percent from Chi Mei Optoelectronics, and four percent from Chunghwa Picture Tubes (CPT).

As for LG, it gets 11.9 percent of its LCD TV panels from Chi Mei, 10.2 percent from CPT, and five percent from AU.

In a related story, production values of Taiwan’s semiconductor packaging and testing industries are expected to total NT$234 billion and NT$103.5 billion for 2007, accounting for 54.3 percent and 65.5 percent, respectively, of the world’s total, ITIS said.

Those totals represent an increase of 11 percent and 12 percent, respectively, over last year, ITIS said.

The ITIS predicted that for the 2006-2010 period, the production values of the semiconductor packaging and testing industries will post a composite growth of 12 percent and 10.8 percent, respectively, while that of the entire semiconductor industry will reach 9.1 percent.

By 2010, the annual production values of the semiconductor packaging and testing industries will have reached NT$332 billion and NT$139.4 billion, respectively, according to ITIS.

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note: Shenzhen has produced the worlds flattest TV Screen. (The source came from Shenzhen News on TV)

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 05:07 AM

Shanghai World Financial Center Overtakes as Tallest Skyscraper

Rising in the Lujiazhui financial district in Pudong, the Shanghai World Financial Center is a tower among towers. The elegant 101-story skyscraper will be (for a moment, at least) the world's tallest when completed in early 2008.

One of the biggest challenges of building tall is creating a structure that can withstand high winds. The architects devised an innovation solution to alleviate wind pressure by adding a rectangular cut-out at the building's apex. Not only does the open area help reduce the building's sway but it also will be home to the world's highest outdoor observation deck -- a 100th-floor vista that will take vertigo to new heights.

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Posted 10 September 2009 - 06:32 PM

The subjects I have stated, in this thread, is in regards to the interesting part of Chinese science which most people don't really know about.

Engineering has much to do with science. Apart from applied science, enginering capability demostrates the foundation a nation science.

The fact that the Chinese were the first discover and circum-navigated the world is infact a great scientific discovery and achivement. The is a demonstatin of a nation that is advance in learning and technology.

In regard to the orign of steel manufacturing, I place the follwing link on that post:
http://bbs.chinadail...h...tra=&page=1

I always post my evidence on claims that I have made to ensure that they are verifiable.


Individual Chinese were/are some of the most innovative people in the world. That being said, there is no need to attach a nationalistic spin to science and technology. Frankly, making these issues nationalistic would be rather counter-productive. For example, the gigantism displayed in some of those "prestige projects" . . . IMHO those are waste of resources just like the soviets did during the Stalin era. Of course, today's Chinese economy is far more productive than the old soviet economy (in many ways even more produtive than the hollowed out US economy today) . . . however, the key ingredient to Chinese productivity is to be found among the millions of anonymous small Chinese enterprises spread all around the country (and the world in some cases) improving people's lives every day of the week . . . not some gigantic concrete monuments that will never recoup the construction cost and someday will prove monoment to the stupidity of the ruling class, just like the Great Wall and the Grand Canal did, along with the pyramids and the massive statues to Pharohs in the middle of nowhere.

The historical verasity on some topics are also problematic. Having citation is not the same as having valid evidence. A lot of the time, it's just blind leading the blind, especially if someone is out looking for the most outlandish claims. Menzie's claims are not at all reliable; frankly, IMHO, he's following the business plan of many a Western opportunists dating back to at least the late Qing: if you can sell something to one out of every 10 Chinese, you are rich beyond belief! What his "books" sell is an ego trip, as opposed to the usual sugar syrup pretending to be patent medicine more than a century ago. Steel was made long before the Bessemer Process. Damascus Steel dated back more than 1000 years, and that was a very specialized surface-hardened steel for weapon making . . . so the plain vanilla steel must have existed long before that. Some say steel ingots were imported from India to Damascus sword makers as far back as the 3rd century to be case hardened etc. and made into Damascus Steel. What the Bessemer Process delivered was mass production of steel at very low cost, converting pig iron into steel; in other words, it's the scale of production and low cost . . . something statist boasters, being unfamiliar with the technology itself, often have a hard time wrapping their heads around. Yes, in real life, patents and significant advance usually only involve incremental improvements that make something just a little better just a little cheaper . . . not something as dramatic as "inventing steel"! If Bessemer actually invented steel, he'd have a very hard time selling it, as there wouldn't have been an existing steel market to sell into! Even Watt's Steam Engine only involved a few per centage efficiency improvment on existing Steam Engines used in coal mines. The Greek guy who supposedly came up with the radical idea from scratch of utilizing steam power never made anything close to a workable steam engine (with all due respect to the innovativeness of ancient Greeks, and to enlightened tinkerers everywhere).

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Posted 11 September 2009 - 01:25 AM

. . . however, the key ingredient to Chinese productivity is to be found among the millions of anonymous small Chinese enterprises spread all around the country (and the world in some cases) improving people's lives every day of the week . . . not some gigantic concrete monuments that will never recoup the construction cost

Exactly, the imposing sky line in Chinese cities are the problems of Chinese economy not testimony of prosperity. But buildings are not just for prestige. Local governments have strong self interest in real estate development. An average 50% cost of real estates eventually go to local government's profits. The number in Shanghai is 75%. Most of the money in the red hot real estate market eventually came from the bank, both buyers and developers. Guess who's gonna pay the bill when these money eventually turn into bad loans.

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Posted 17 September 2009 - 09:46 AM

The Days of the Year

In 1276,an astronomer,Guo Shoujing,was assigned a task to compile a new calendar. It was to be a unified calendar from north to south with the errors of the previous calendar corrected. Guo was a scientist of exceptional talent and dedication. On taking the task, Guo stated "a good calendar must be based on obeservations and observations depend upon good devices." He went on to examine the Hunyi(armillary sphere),the only instrument in the observatory of the capital Dadu(Beijing),and found that the North Star of it was set at 35 degrees which was the latitude of Kaifeng where the Hunyi was made. This meant that the instrument had not been adjusted when it was transported to Dadu from Kaifeng... Guo thus made it a priority to develop new devices. Within 3 years of strenous efforts, he invented 12 astronomical devices which were far better in function and accuracy than the previous ones. He also made a number of portable instuments for use in field studies outside Dadu.

As part of the calendar project, Guo prsided over a natiovide programe of astonomical observation throughout the country, which covered a wide area from latitude 15 degrees North to 65 degrees North and logitude 128 degrees East to 102 degrees East. The items of observation included the lenght of the shadow of gnomon, the angle of the North Star from the ground surface, and the beginning times of day and night on th vernal equinox and the autumnal equinox. Guo also examined nearly 900 years of astonomical records from 463 to 1278 and selected 6 figures from the records for calculation the duratio of the tropical year. Guo's result was 365.2425 days with the year, which is exactly the same as todays widely used Gregorian calendar.

Guo and other astronomers worked for 40 years and finally completed the calendar in 1280. Numerous calculations were made to convert the data of the ecliptic co-ordinate and equatorial co-ordinate systems, and used twice interpolations to solve the variations in speed of the suns movement which affected the accuracy of the calendar. The calendar waas unprecedented in accuracy. It adopted the winter solice of the year 1280, the 9th year of the Yuan Dynasty, as the epoch, the point of reference for the calendar, and established the duration of a tropical year of 365.2425 days and that of a lunar moth 29.530593 days. The error between the duration of its tropical yar and that of the revolution of the earth around the sun was only 26 seconds. The calendar was named Shoushi, meaning,"measuring time for the public."
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Posted 20 September 2009 - 07:24 AM

The Qing Dynasty Invented the World's Best Aeroplane

In 1910 about 1 year before the end of the Qing Dynasty. An Engineer, Fengru(冯如) build an aeroplane. The wings of this plane was 9 meters long and 1.4 meters thick, controlled with a 30 horse power propeller. Its propeller an rotate 1200 revolutions per minute. The plane can fly 104.6km per hour and 213.2 meters high. This was the plane that flew the fastest and highest in the world at that time.

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 08:16 AM

The 1418 Map

Columbus found the New World in 1492; Dias discovered the Cape of Good Hope in 1488; and Magellan set off to circumnavigate the world in 1519. However, there is one difficulty with this confident assertion of European mastery: it is not be true.

In fact, the world and all its continents were discovered by the Chinese Admiral Zheng He, whose fleets roamed the oceans between 1405 and 1435. His exploits, which are well documented in Chinese historical records, were written about in a book which appeared in China around 1418 called “The Marvellous Visions of the Star Raft”.

An ancient Chinese map which is a copy, made in 1763, of a map, dated 1418, which contains notes that substantially match the descriptions in the book. “It will revolutionise our thinking about 15th-century world history,” says Gunnar Thompson, a student of ancient maps and early explorers.

Six Chinese characters in the upper right-hand corner of the map say this is a “general chart of the integrated world”. In the lower left-hand corner is a note that says the chart was drawn by Mo Yi Tong, imitating a world chart made in 1418 which showed the barbarians paying tribute to the Ming emperor, Zhu Di. The copyist distinguishes what he took from the original from what he added himself.

The map was bought for about $500 from a small Shanghai dealer in 2001 by Liu Gang, one of the most eminent commercial lawyers in China, who collects maps and paintings. Mr Liu says he knew it was significant, but thought it might be a modern fake. He showed his acquisition to five experienced collectors, who agreed that the traces of vermin on the bamboo paper it is written on, and the de-pigmentation of ink and colours, indicated that the map was more than 100 years old.

Mr Liu was unsure of its meaning, and asked specialists in ancient Chinese history for their advice, but none, he says, was forthcoming. Then, last autumn, he read “1421: The Year China Discovered the World”, a book written in 2003 by Gavin Menzies, in which the author makes the controversial claim that Zheng He circumnavigated the world, discovering America on the way. Mr Menzies, who is a former submariner in the Royal Navy and a merchant banker, is an amateur historian and his theory met with little approval from professionals. But it struck a chord: his book became a bestseller and his 1421 website is very popular. In any event, his arguments convinced Mr Liu that his map was a relic of Zheng He's earlier voyages.

The detail on the copy of the map is remarkable. The outlines of Africa, Europe and the Americas are instantly recognisable. It shows the Nile with two sources. The north-west passage appears to be free of ice. But the inaccuracies, also, are glaring. California is shown as an island; the British Isles do not appear at all. The distance from the Red Sea to the Mediterranean is ten times greater than it ought to be. Australia is in the wrong place (though cartographers no longer doubt that Australia and New Zealand were discovered by Chinese seamen centuries before Captain Cook arrived on the scene).

The commentary on the map, which seems to have been drawn from the original, is written in clear Chinese characters which can still be easily read. Of the west coast of America, the map says: “The skin of the race in this area is black-red, and feathers are wrapped around their heads and waists.” Of the Australians, it reports: “The skin of the aborigine is also black. All of them are naked and wearing bone articles around their waists.”

But this remarkable precision, rather than the errors, is what critics of the Menzies theory are likely to use to question the authenticity of the 1418 map. Mr Menzies and his followers are naturally extremely keen to establish that the 1763 copy is not a forgery and that it faithfully represents the 1418 original. The map has passed its carbon dating test. This would lend weighty support to their thesis: that China had indeed discovered America by (if not actually in) 1421. Mass spectrography analysis to date the copied map is under way at Waikato University in New Zealand, and the results will be announced in February. But even if affirmative, this analysis is of limited importance since it can do no more than date the copyist's paper and inks.

Five academic experts on ancient charts note that the 1418 map puts together information that was available piecemeal in China from earlier nautical maps, going back to the 13th century and Kublai Khan, who was no mean explorer himself. They confirmed it is authentic.

The map makes good estimates of the latitude and longitude of much of the world, and recognises that the earth is round. “The Chinese were almost certainly aware of longitude before Zheng He set sail,” says Robert Cribbs of California State University. They certainly assumed the world was round. “The format of the map is totally consistent with the level of knowledge that we should expect of royal Chinese geographers following the voyages of Zheng He,” says Mr Thompson.

Moreover, some of the errors in the 1418 map soon turned up in European maps, the most striking being California drawn as an island. The Portuguese are aware of a world map drawn before 1420 by a cartographer named Albertin di Virga, which showed Africa and the Americas. Since no Portuguese seamen had yet discovered those places, the most obvious source for the information seems to be European copies of Chinese maps.

Despite the fact that the map is authentic, it doesn't stop racist scholars from critiizing the map. Yet there are many Chinese scholars of great jelousy who are doing all they can to find fault in the map. Wang Tai-Peng, a scholarly journalist in Vancouver who does not doubt that the Chinese explored the world early in the 15th century (he has written about a visit by Chinese ambassadors to Florence in 1433), doubts whether Zheng He's ships landed in North America. Mr Wang also claims that Zheng He's navigation maps were drawn in a totally different Chinese map-making tradition. “Until the 1418 map is scientifically authenticated, we still have to take it with a grain of salt,” he says.

Showing that the world was first explored by Chinese rather than European seamen would be a major piece of historical revisionism.

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Posted 22 September 2009 - 09:47 AM

The 1418 Map


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Posted 23 September 2009 - 09:27 AM

Dr A. Z. Lovric is a geneticist had evidence that the Dalmatians sailed the world with copies of Chinese Maps made by Zhenghe's Fleets. Here is a summary of his findings:

1. A lengend persists amoung island people off the Adriatic that prior to the Ottomans invasions (prior 1522) foreign sailing ships manned by "Oblique-eyed yellow Easterners" (in old Dalmatic: pashoglavi zihodane) visited the Adriatic.

2. After the oriental naval visites the medieval Dalmatian Admiral Harvatye Mariakyr with seven Adriatic ships reciprocated the visit by sailing through the Indian Ocean (Khulap-Yndran) to the Far East to Zihodane in Khitay (Cathay).

3. On his return from the Far East, Admiral Mariakyr, having learned of a new land in the West, decided to sail there with his fleet to Semeraye (South America); he lost his life in medieval Parne (Pantagonia). This voyage was recorded in medieval Glagolitic script.

4. Recent DNA studies have confirmed that in some Adriatic island (Hvar, Korcula) on the adjacent coasts (Makarska) certian families have East Asian genotype.

5. Up until the 20th century some of these Adriatic islanders has surnames of non-Slavic and non-European origin, e.g. Yoshamya, Yenda, Uresha, Shamana, Sayana, Sarana, and Hayana. In 1918 when the Austo-Hungarians were defeated, the islanders were obliged to Slavicize such foreign surnames, but the persist to this day in nicknames and alias.

6. Medieval Dalmatian-colored symbols for maps were the same as those used by the Chinese: black=north, white=west, red=south, blue and green=east.

7. Adriatic islanders have until recently used a non-European nomenclature for America and the Far East based on translation of Chinese nomenclature.

8. American cactuses (chiefly Opuntia) in medieval Dalmatia, at Dubrovnik and elsewere, were said to have been brought by early ships from the Far East.
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Posted 23 September 2009 - 09:27 AM

New Anti Hepatitis B Mechanism Found

A team, led by Prof. XIONG Sidong at Fudan University Institute for Immunobiology, found through their more than 4-year study that tripartite motif-containing 22 (TRIM22) inhibits the activity of hepatitis B virus core promoter. Researchers explain that members of TRIM family is a part of the innate immune system to counter intracellular pathogens. When infected by hepatitis B viruses, TRIM22 are disarmed, allowing the disease to become chronic, or develop into a cancer. Repeated experiments have shown that TRIM22 is able to inhibit the duplication of hepatitis B virus, implying a role to prevent hepatitis B infections. Researchers also found that TRIM22 inhibits the activity of hepatitis B virus core promoter. The finding was published in the recent issue of HEPATOLOGY.

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Posted 23 September 2009 - 09:27 AM

Printing

Contrary to what most Westerners think, Gutenburg did not invent the printing press. Woodblock printing on paper and silk was invented in China around the seventh century. Buddhist monks were instrumental in advancing the new technique; they simply had to have many more copies of their sacred texts than hand-copiers and stone tablets could produce. The earliest printed text in the world was a Buddhist scroll, discovered in Korea, and printed in China between the years 704 and 751.

The technique of printing with carved wood blocks appeared about the 7th century, early in the Tang dynasty. Block printing reached it's golden age during the Song dynasty which was in the years 960-1279 as the imperial patronage encouraged the publication of large numbers of books by the central and local governments.

The process of printing has had far reaching implications of the world. The Europeans saw printing as an important way of archiving religious manuscripts. Printing also allowed the western world to share information with the masses.

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