Claim to former ethnic identities of royal families can come off as desperate attempts to secure the prestige of the elite knowledge and experience belonging to certain peoples. However it is also my belief that this kind of mentality has been enhanced by Hans that try to renegotiate the identity as a pure one in order to shake off any mention that Han could be mixed with anything else. This identity reduction invites the backlash argument where everyone can be related but that some are simply more pure which make assigning oneself elite status not such an extremist viewpoint. I think many have become quite familiar with the Korean arguments that Qing had importance to ancient Korean groups insofar as they were all northern so somehow Qing superiority was connected to Silla but it is presented in conjunction with the first argument that Hans were entirely separate from any of the groups which came to reside in northern China such as the Xianbei Khitans Jurchens etc. Then it comes full circle when you get the occasional argument which says that northern Chinese are basically not Han at all and that they are basically just the equivalents of Xianbei Khitans Jurchens etc and that real Hans are pushed further and further down. It's just a stupid game that has no end.
Do me a favor.No offense but please don't keep bringing up this Han is not pure argument again and again. I never say Han is pure in the first place and it pointless to quote me and say something totally irrelevant. If you read my post 34 again which you quoted, you won't find the word Chinese or Han so I don't understand why have habit of bringing this up. This thread is not about Han Chinese nationalists mentality or how non Han/Korean view Han Chinese racial purity. Whether Han is pure or not, the fact remain there are Korean people who try to relate Qing royal family to Korean people for the sake of picking up on prestige and use it to their advantage. Han Chinese racial origin purity is not my subject of interest and I don't really care how other people view it. Perhaps, you should create your own thread and talk about it somewhere else.
As far as this Korean nationalists misinterpretation goes and origin of Qing royal family, which is what this thread is all about, all I know is that despite Manchu and Korean live close to each other, Manchu and Korean are two different ethnics/tribes and Qing dynasty royal family are separate clan from Wan Yan clan of Jin.
Just curious, may I ask what is your ethnicity?You seem to be very sensitive about all this Han racial origin thing and like to brought this subject everytime you have the opportunity to do so even if it's totally irrelevant. Sorry if I'm being too harsh. However, I agree with you about the whole argument about northern Chinese being not Han but Xianbei, Khitan and so on and the real Hans are pushed down. Like you said, it just a stupid game. Again, I apologize if I'm too harsh.
Edited by Hou Yi, 14 July 2012 - 06:13 AM.