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#1 sigui

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 08:55 AM

can anyone tell me what the chinese graphs are for Hu Shi's four points of the "literary revolution"?

1. speak only when you have something to say
2. say what you have to say, and say it as it is said
3. speak your own language, not the language of others
4. speak the language of your own time

thx! and, if you have an online reference for that, i'd appreciate that too!

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 09:38 AM

can anyone tell me what the chinese graphs are for Hu Shi's four points of the "literary revolution"?

1. speak only when you have something to say
2. say what you have to say, and say it as it is said
3. speak your own language, not the language of others
4. speak the language of your own time

thx! and, if you have an online reference for that, i'd appreciate that too!


  一,要有话说,方才说话。
  二,有甚么话,说甚么话;话怎么说,就怎么说。
  三,要说我自己的话,别说别人的话。
  四,是甚么时代的人,说甚么时代的话。

The original eight points (八不主义) were

  一,不做「言之无物」的文字。
  二,不做「无病呻吟」的文字。
  三,不用典。
  四,不用套语烂调。
  五,不重对偶:──文须废骈,诗须废律。
  六,不做不合文法的文字。
  七,不摹仿古人。
  八,不避俗话俗字。

The four points version was published in 1918 in 建设的文学革命论.
假如有个恶魔在某日或某夜闯入你十分孤独的寂寞中,且对你说:"人生便是你目前所过、或往昔所过的生活,将来仍将不断重演,绝无任何新鲜之处。然而,每一样痛苦、欢乐、念头、叹息,以及生活中许多大大小小无法言传的事情皆会再度重现,而所有的结局也都一样——同样的月夜、枯树和蜘蛛,同样的这个时刻以及我。那存在的永恒之沙漏将不断地反复转动,而你在沙漏的眼中只不过是一粒灰尘罢了!" 那个恶魔竟敢如此胡说八道,难道你不咬牙切齿地诅咒他?还是,若在以前的话,你也许会回答他:"你真是一个神,我从未听过如此神圣的道理!" - Nietzsche, "Die fröhliche Wissenschaft", § 341

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 10:18 AM

thx very much honam! for the link too.
they are great points indeed, even a hundred years later!

#4 Honam

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Posted 20 February 2010 - 11:55 AM

3. speak your own language, not the language of others


It actually says "speak your own words, not others words", refering to avoid quoting the Classics (original point 7, but also a reference to points 3, 4, 5).
假如有个恶魔在某日或某夜闯入你十分孤独的寂寞中,且对你说:"人生便是你目前所过、或往昔所过的生活,将来仍将不断重演,绝无任何新鲜之处。然而,每一样痛苦、欢乐、念头、叹息,以及生活中许多大大小小无法言传的事情皆会再度重现,而所有的结局也都一样——同样的月夜、枯树和蜘蛛,同样的这个时刻以及我。那存在的永恒之沙漏将不断地反复转动,而你在沙漏的眼中只不过是一粒灰尘罢了!" 那个恶魔竟敢如此胡说八道,难道你不咬牙切齿地诅咒他?还是,若在以前的话,你也许会回答他:"你真是一个神,我从未听过如此神圣的道理!" - Nietzsche, "Die fröhliche Wissenschaft", § 341




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