Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Which one is stronger, Zhang Fei of Guan Yu?

Started by LuLingQi , Apr 13 2010 08:42 AM

  • Please log in to reply
15 replies to this topic

#1 LuLingQi

LuLingQi

    Provincial Governor (Cishi 刺史)

  • Entry Scholar (Xiucai)
  • 38 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Bandung, Indonesia
  • Interests:Chinese art of war, phylosophy, Chinese history & culture, Martial arts, Music, military tactics, science
  • Languages spoken:English, Indonesian, Chinese, Japanese
  • Ethnic Groups or Race:Hokkian Chinese
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese Art of War
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Martial Arts & Three Kingdoms

Posted 13 April 2010 - 08:42 AM

They're both strong, but which one do you think is stronger?

#2 Ma Su

Ma Su

    Grand Mentor (Taishi 太师)

  • Entry Scholar (Xiucai)
  • 437 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:England
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese History
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Three Kingdoms

Posted 14 April 2010 - 02:22 AM

They're both strong, but which one do you think is stronger?


History wise, would give it to Guan Yu since he did kill an officer but there isn't really enough info to tell.

#3 ahkong

ahkong

    County Magistrate (Xianling 县令)

  • CHF Beginner
  • 5 posts
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese History
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    none

Posted 19 April 2010 - 12:58 AM

In game stats Zhang Fei skills is usually stronger than Guan Yu.

#4 LuLingQi

LuLingQi

    Provincial Governor (Cishi 刺史)

  • Entry Scholar (Xiucai)
  • 38 posts
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Bandung, Indonesia
  • Interests:Chinese art of war, phylosophy, Chinese history & culture, Martial arts, Music, military tactics, science
  • Languages spoken:English, Indonesian, Chinese, Japanese
  • Ethnic Groups or Race:Hokkian Chinese
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese Art of War
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Martial Arts & Three Kingdoms

Posted 19 April 2010 - 03:29 AM

In game stats Zhang Fei skills is usually stronger than Guan Yu.


Haha yeah Dynasty Warriors isn't it? Or The Three Kingdoms? :stinker:

#5 ChineseBoy

ChineseBoy

    Citizen (Shumin 庶民)

  • CHF Beginner
  • 2 posts
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese Language
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    software engineering

Posted 01 May 2010 - 09:10 AM

The book 《三国演义》said that Zhang Fei limbs stronger , but simple-minded，and Guan Yu's Kongfu is better than ZhangFei.

(Romance of Three Kingdoms,San Guo Yan Yi)

#6 hellfire190

hellfire190

    Prefect (Taishou 太守)

  • Jinshi Exam Candidate
  • 13 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Australia
  • Interests:Chinese History (Warring States, Three Kingdoms, end of Yuan dynasty to 1949), Taiwan's history, Classical Chinese, Chinese Fiction, Chinese-English Interpreting
  • Languages spoken:English, Chinese, Hokkien, Cantonese
  • Ethnic Groups or Race:Chinese
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese History
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    None

Posted 07 September 2010 - 07:33 AM

Zhang Fei and Guan Yu weren't sworn brothers in history right?

#7 Xiuzhao

Xiuzhao

    Prefect (Taishou 太守)

  • Entry Scholar (Xiucai)
  • 25 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:UK, West Midlands
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese History
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Eastern Han Dynasty and the Three Kingdoms

Posted 07 September 2010 - 08:33 AM

No they weren't sworn brothers. The slept in the same bed and were as close as brothers.

As for the topic, I would agree with Ma Su and give the edge to Guan Yu due to his killing of Yan Liang.

#8 SunShao

SunShao

    Citizen (Shumin 庶民)

  • CHF Beginner
  • 3 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese History
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Spring and Autumn period/warring states/three kingdoms

Posted 31 May 2011 - 07:13 AM

I agree with ChineseBoy, Zhang Fei was strong, sure, maybe stroger than Guan Yu, but he was simple-minded,while Guan Yu has a brain to back it up remember, it's Guan Yu who gets captured by Wu and beheaded, and Zhang Fei who is beheaded by his own troops in his sleep.
I have never had a fit, but I lost the love of my uncle,

[img]http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images.wikia.com/thethreekingdoms/images/9/9b/Cao_Cao_-_Red_Cliff(3).jpg&imgrefurl=http://thethreekingdoms.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Movies_%2526_TV_Series_Images&usg=__N_5PYAyST1FU_ZJjdKCna5cVOUc=&h=716&w=502&sz=102&hl=en&start=0&sig2=LVKnFa_jCp2rOgeH9m-_0Q&zoom=1&tbnid=BROCH7Kp8VLF9M:&tbnh=110&tbnw=83&ei=ZwnjTZuFGcubtwe69dGkBw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcao%2Bcao%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1T4ADBS_enUS287US288%26biw%3D988%26bih%3D414%26tbm%3Disch&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=0&page=1&ndsp=14&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=834&ty=113[/img]

and therefore he had deceived you

#9 Ma Su

Ma Su

    Grand Mentor (Taishi 太师)

  • Entry Scholar (Xiucai)
  • 437 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:England
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese History
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Three Kingdoms

Posted 31 May 2011 - 01:31 PM

I think calling the novel Zhang Fei (I assume, like chineseboy, you are referring to novel characters) simpleminded is a bit harsh, he was quite clever in the novel, his weaknesses were move those of personality and poor leadership.

#10 memeo

memeo

    Executive State Secretary (Shangshu Puye 尚书仆射)

  • Entry Scholar (Xiucai)
  • 761 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Singapore
  • Interests:History of three kingdoms, Anime, Manga, Games
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese History

Posted 03 June 2011 - 04:50 AM

I think calling the novel Zhang Fei (I assume, like chineseboy, you are referring to novel characters) simpleminded is a bit harsh, he was quite clever in the novel, his weaknesses were move those of personality and poor leadership.


Based from the novel Zhang Fei's becomes clever in progress when he attack Shu, Zhuge Liang admitted him also, if not he will not get Yan Yan submission. I would say his personality is a problem because he's a drunkard and beating his own soldiers, that's why he got killed by him self.

I dont agree with the poor leadership, I think he has good leadership when he's not drunk, but will become a problem when he is drunk :nunchucks:
I wonder.... :-?

#11 Swordsman

Swordsman

    Provincial Governor (Cishi 刺史)

  • Entry Scholar (Xiucai)
  • 34 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Languages spoken:English, Chinese
  • Ethnic Groups or Race:Chinese, Cantonese
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Any chinese-related stuff
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Wuxia

Posted 11 September 2011 - 01:01 PM

Zhang Fei's bad temper caused his own downfall. i guess most of us would rather be subordinates of Guan Yu than to be subordinates of Zhang Fei.

#12 YummYakitori

YummYakitori

    Grand Tutor (Taifu 太傅)

  • Master Scholar (Juren)
  • 362 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Singapore
  • Languages spoken:English, Mandarin, Hokkien, Teochew, Korean, Japanese, Mongolian (a bit)
  • Ethnic Groups or Race:Han Chinese 漢族
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Asian History
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Korean History 朝鮮歷史 조선역사

Posted 01 October 2011 - 08:22 AM

Zhang Fei's bad temper caused his own downfall. i guess most of us would rather be subordinates of Guan Yu than to be subordinates of Zhang Fei.


Yep. Zhang Fei being reckless and careless, he would most probably ask us to 'chiong' hotheadedly into the battlefield to get killed

#13 Ma Su

Ma Su

    Grand Mentor (Taishi 太师)

  • Entry Scholar (Xiucai)
  • 437 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:England
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese History
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Three Kingdoms

Posted 03 October 2011 - 01:00 PM

Yep. Zhang Fei being reckless and careless, he would most probably ask us to 'chiong' hotheadedly into the battlefield to get killedn

Seems a tad unfair. Zhang Fei showed some ability as a tactician and was one of the better Shu generals of the era. Guan Yu as Governor of Jing did lose most of the battles he fought. If it was a case of who as general was less likely to get me killed in battle, I would serve Zhang Fei.It's just Zhang Fei was, according to the sgz, an awful man to serve and it got him killed.

Edited by Ma Su, 03 October 2011 - 01:00 PM.

#14 alantas

alantas

    Prefect (Taishou 太守)

  • CHF Beginner
  • 28 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Asian History
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    Jack of all trades, Master of none

Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:41 AM

My father used to tell me that Zhang Fei was actually a great calligrapher, and wasn't as simple minded as stated in the novel.

I was also taken aback when I was told that Liu, Guan and Zhang were never sworn brothers... but slept on the same bed from time to time. Maybe the novel sound have been called "Bromance of the Three Kingdoms".

:P

#15 ThunderzonXT

ThunderzonXT

    Prefect (Taishou 太守)

  • Xiucai Exam Candidate
  • 29 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Main Interest in CHF:
    Chinese History
  • Specialisation / Expertise:
    None

Posted 05 December 2012 - 02:03 PM

Well... doesn't anyone remember how the three of them came to met? : )
Back to Three Kingdoms


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

  1. China History Forum, Chinese History Forum
  2. → Chinese History By Dynasty Period
  3. → Three Kingdoms
  4. Privacy Policy
  5. Imperial Guidelines ·