Weapons of the Ever Victorious Army
Posted 08 August 2010 - 08:58 PM
Posted 11 August 2010 - 08:52 AM
The Ever Victorious Army was the Qing army that helped put down the Taiping and Nein Rebellions and It was the first Chinese army which was trained in European tactics. My question is, does anyone know what kind of weapons did they use?
Here are some pictures of the Ever Victorious Army.
I'm not an expert in weapons. So I couldn't tell what rifles they were carrying. But for sure, they were equipped with western weapons, as Frederick Townsend Ward specifically trained the army to be equipped with western weapons.
"夫君子之行：靜以修身，儉以養德；非淡泊無以明志，非寧靜無以致遠。" - 諸葛亮
One should seek serenity to cultivate the body, thriftiness to cultivate the morals. If you are not simple and frugal, your ambition will not sparkle. If you are not calm and cool, you will not reach far. - Zhugeliang
Posted 11 August 2010 - 06:04 PM
Edited by Mei Houwang, 11 August 2010 - 06:18 PM.
Posted 14 June 2012 - 04:25 PM
As the Foreign Rifles grew into the larger Ever Victorious Army (EVA) between late 1861 and the end of 1862, there were not enough breech-loading rifles available to arm a force of 2000 to 4000, and rifled percussion muzzle-loaders became the norm. The 1851 and 1853 British Tower musket was a .702 rifled percussion model that was increasingly available after the Crimean War when, during the late 1850s, the 1853 Enfield .577 percussion rifle gradually replaced the Tower as standard issue to British troops. Both fired the Minié bullet and were known popularly as British Minié rifles.
When in 1862 Admiral Sir James Hope began to provide the EVA with materiel support from the British surplus store of Tower and Enfield rifles in India, the EVA then had access to a sufficient number of weapons to arm the force through its days under Gordon to its final muster in May of 1864.
Andrew Wilson, in his history of the EVA under Gordon, says “a thousand of the men [Ward’s men in early 1862] were armed with Prussian rifles of the old pattern.” These may have been the 1848 Dreyse .61 percussion rifle, also called a Needle Gun.
When Li Hung-chang’s Huai army came to Shanghai in 1862 and began training with the EVA, some sources say that the Huai Army already had a small foreign rifle unit 洋槍小隊, and that as the Huai army grew in number it acquired many more foreign rifles. An initial search through online Chinese sources about the kind of foreign rifles the Huai army used did not turn up anything as specific as the foregoing, which I suppose is not surprising as Chinese then would have not been very well acquainted with the nomenclature of Western arms. More research on this lays ahead, in general sources on the Huai army, and in more detailed Chinese accounts such as 干醒民, 上海一八六二年 – 叫化兵入城, and personal journal diaries and journals.
Posted 28 February 2013 - 06:47 AM
IMHO, it is valuable picture too - the regaining of Suzhou by troops under Li Hongzhang in 1864. The European or American weaponry of Changshenjun in general were not too different at all.
Edited by Altaica Militarica, 28 February 2013 - 06:56 AM.
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