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[norenxaq]

Hello:

sevaral years ago, I came across mention of an article in a Chinese newspaper that maintained Queen Elizabeth II had possible Tang Dynasty ancestors. While I and another have pieced together one such possibility, I would like to see the original article.

Does anyone know where this was published?

What is the lineage? (note: anything online about this I already have seen or I am one of the sources for, so, referring me there won't help)

thank-you

[ghostexorcist]

Hello:

sevaral years ago, I came across mention of an article in a Chinese newspaper that maintained Queen Elizabeth II had possible Tang Dynasty ancestors. While I and another have pieced together one such possibility, I would like to see the original article.

Does anyone know where this was published?

What is the lineage? (note: anything online about this I already have seen or I am one of the sources for, so, referring me there won't help)

thank-you

That's ridiculous. How could she possibly have Chinese ancestry? It just sounds like someone is trying to justify the British rule over Hong Kong by connection her to a famous "native" dynasty. This would offset the "foreign" nature of the British.

There are many odd claims about the British royal family. I saw a conspiracy film about the ''Illuminati'' that said they were actually German and had ties with the Nazis.

What is your theory regarding this?

Edited by ghostexorcist, 24 August 2010 - 06:57 PM.

[bloodmerchant]

Hello:

sevaral years ago, I came across mention of an article in a Chinese newspaper that maintained Queen Elizabeth II had possible Tang Dynasty ancestors. While I and another have pieced together one such possibility, I would like to see the original article.

Does anyone know where this was published?

What is the lineage? (note: anything online about this I already have seen or I am one of the sources for, so, referring me there won't help)

thank-you

This is just one of the most ridiculous things that I've ever heard.

[Gan]

I'm just going to have some fun with this post. Don't take me too serious.

I read before in an article that the Silk Road trade worked both ways. Tang dynasty was very famous for the interactions between Chinese and Foreigners, notably those West of China. It wouldn't be too ridiculous to speculate that many Chinese went west as well. Baghdad had Chinese traders. Damascus, Alexandria, as well as many communities stretching from Tibet to the Indian Subcontinent all the way into North Africa and everywhere the Mediterranean touches. Maybe people have a hard time believing that but definitely by the time the Mongols were conquering others, many Chinese did went there.

Chances are, as it was with the foreign traders in China, most of these Chinese travelers were probably male, single (maybe with family at home, but "single" on the road, if you get my point) and had to deal with their business on their own. Very little support from any major authorities I would say. Considering the distance, there's a very high chance that many of these Chinese basically live for the rest of their lives in those places they went to. Another high chance that some of them intermarried as well. With no strong standing Chinese community or post around those places, they probably just immersed themselves with the locals and their descendents eventually assimilated with everyone else. This would have happen to anybody with those conditions, not just Chinese.

This would have happened beyond Tang, to the Song, Mongol Empire even the isolationist environments within Ming and Qing.

It really wouldn't surprise me if many people west of China, whether they be from Iran, Turkey, Egypt, Italy or even Scotland, have some ancestral link with the Chinese. In the same way, I wouldn't be surprised if in some way, many Chinese (not just the Hui or other minorities) today have ancestors from many places.

So, does the British royalty have any Tang era ancestors. I'm making a 99% guess that answer would be no. I'm leaving 1% as a possibility.

[norenxaq]

That's ridiculous. How could she possibly have Chinese ancestry? It just sounds like someone is trying to justify the British rule over Hong Kong by connection her to a famous "native" dynasty. This would offset the "foreign" nature of the British.

There are many odd claims about the British royal family. I saw a conspiracy film about the ''Illuminati'' that said they were actually German and had ties with the Nazis.

What is your theory regarding this?

justification? considering the original concept was in a Chinese mainland newspaper, I doubt it. As for its likelihood, I consider it highly possible as certain rulers married into royal families to their west and this progressed until one reached Western Europe.

[William O'Chee]

That reminds me of a sketch on a British comedy show about an Indian family living in Britain called The Kumars at No 42. In it the son and his father are watching the Trooping the Colour ceremony on television when the father says that the British royal family are Indian. The script goes like this:

Sanjay: Ah, the trooping of the colour. Great. The Queen looks nice doesn't she?

Father: Nice? Of course nice - because she's Indian.

Sanjay: Not the Queen?

Father: All of them! The whole royal family are Indian!

Sanjay: What are you talking about?

Father: Oh think about it ya. Descended from Queen Victoria, Empress of India, so Indian.

Sanjay: Rubbish!

Father: Not rubbish, look at them, uh? They all live in the same family house together - Indian. All work in the family business - Indian. All have arranged marriages - Indian.

Sanjay: But...

Father: They all have sons, daughters no good - Indian.

Sanjay: But dad...

Father: Children live with their parents until they are married - Indian.

Sanjay: Dad, dad.

Father: What more do you want? Do you want them to put on turbans and charm snakes out of baskets?

Sanjay: But dad; Harry, Wills, Fergie?

Father: They're all Indian. All except Prince Charles - he's African.

Sanjay: What?

Father: If he was Indian he'd have smaller ears.

[Amathev]

I'd say the likelyhood of it is incredibly low.
Royal marriages were done to increase relations with the other country, I don't think the British would have married into the family of a country they sought to occupy or have rule over.
More likely marriages would've been with major European powers of the time.

[HobbsTheLegalist]

Almost anyone with a drop of english blood is related to Vlad the Impaler. It's not a big deal if you have one ancestor of X generations ago.