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#31 Bomi

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Posted 19 May 2005 - 05:51 PM

.... I wish the Swaztika could be 'won back' for Buddhism. It's such a nice symbol. Imagine if the Cross was only known for racism, Imperialism, bigotry and zealous fanaticism, that would probably upset Christians.

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What do you mean win it back, it's not identical, Buddhist version never got taken from them, the Nazis just flipped it to create their verson of the Swastika. My Buddist kindy I use to go to still use the original symbol.

I remember a teacher was very disturbed once when I dew it the wrong way round - oooppssss

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:35 PM

but still, people will mistake it for the Nazi party symbol regardless.
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Posted 20 May 2005 - 11:52 PM

but still, people will mistake it for the Nazi party symbol regardless.

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Only because they're not educated about it. If they were more exposed then it wouldn't be such a problem... But I know what you say is very true... makes me so sad :cry^:

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Posted 08 April 2006 - 04:17 AM

some of the gangs in the philippines use the swastika symbol as their own symbol. formerly, i used it as my personal emblem until i replaced it not because of nazism but to show that i fear god & not the Devil, whose sign is the swastika.
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Posted 08 April 2006 - 05:24 AM

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well, it's in the chinese character encodings.... XD

Edited by naruwan, 08 April 2006 - 05:29 AM.

mudanin kata mudanin kata. kata siki-a kata siki-a. muhaiv ludun muhaiv ludun. kanta sipal tas-tas kanta sipal tas-tas. kanta sipal tunuh kanta sipal tunuh. sikavilun vini daingaz sikavilun vini daingaz.

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 01:37 AM

formerly, the jews often use the swastika as one of its decorations.
here's the evidence:
The swastika was not widely utilized by followers of the Abrahamic religions like judaism. Where it does exist, it is not portrayed as an explicitly religious symbol and is often purely decorative or, at most, a symbol of good luck. One example of scattered use is the floor of the synagogue at Ein Gedi, built during the Roman occupation of Judea, which was decorated with a swastika.
it shows that before the nazi occupation, the swatika did no harm on the jews.
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Posted 11 April 2006 - 02:43 AM

Coming to this thread late...

What I find silly and absurd is the removal of the swastika symbol from model kits of WWII German planes and vehicles. It kinda defeats the whole purpose historical modelling.
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Posted 11 April 2006 - 04:40 AM

Some Chinese neolithic pottery had a swastika or something similar
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Also, some knotched jade artifacts look like multi-armed spiral symbols
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Posted 18 September 2006 - 11:36 PM

Here's some Chinese relevant information about the Swastika and the Sauvastika (the one directed to the left) that I found in &C.A.S. Williams' "Outlines of Chinese Symbolism & Art Motives".

"The [Swastika] is said to be the first of 65 auspicious signs on the footprint of Buddha, and the [Sauvastika] the fourth. It is said by some authorities to have been impressed by each toe of the Buddha. Sometimes these toe impressions are represented by flowers or flames . . . It [Swastika] is styled the 'ten thousand character sign,' Wan Tzu, and is said to have come from heaven. It is described as the 'accumulation of lucky signs posessing ten thousand efficacies.' It is also regarded as the symbol or seal of Buddha's heart [Hence the Swastika on the Lantau Buddha on Lantau Island in HK that Jieming posted]. and is usually placed on the heart of Shakyamuni Buddha in images or pictures of that divinity, as it is believed to contain within it the whole mind of the Buddha. It appears as an ornament on the crowns of the BOnpa and Lama deities of Thibet. It may, after all, be nothing more or less that a variety of the Mystic Knot. . . . A number of bronze and brass crosses about the size of belt buckles have been unearthed in the ordos district of North China. These tokens are nearly all different, and chiefly take the form of the Christian cross, though the Swastika is also in evidencs in many of them" (381 - 382).

It is also said be a very old form of teh character "fang," which means the four regions of the world. And it has meant ten thousand (wan), symbolizing infinity since about 700 AD.

Unfortunately, symbols are subjective representations of what people make them, so to some this is an auspicious symbol, while to others it represents human civilization at its worst...and no level of education or worldliness can make all people view symbols through the same lens. I personally like the heart of Buddha idea :D

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 11:40 PM

My School also has a swastika.

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Mee Toh School, Maha Bodhi School also have ithe swastika. Not sure about Manjusri Sec though
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 02:37 AM

My School also has a swastika.

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Mee Toh School, Maha Bodhi School also have ithe swastika. Not sure about Manjusri Sec though


dun think manjusri has it .. (it s a lotus)
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 06:41 AM

Those 4 are probably the only Buddhist schools in Singapore, but the latter 3 requires students to Buddhist scriptures only my primary school Wan Ci(Red Swastika) didnt require as to do so
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 10:17 PM

What do you mean win it back, it's not identical, Buddhist version never got taken from them, the Nazis just flipped it to create their verson of the Swastika. My Buddist kindy I use to go to still use the original symbol.

I remember a teacher was very disturbed once when I dew it the wrong way round - oooppssss

The Buddhist swastika is not the 'original' symbol per se,many cultures utilize the symbol and vedic religion precedes Buddhism in the usage.
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Posted 19 September 2006 - 10:30 PM

Those 4 are probably the only Buddhist schools in Singapore, but the latter 3 requires students to Buddhist scriptures only my primary school Wan Ci(Red Swastika) didnt require as to do so


yes, my school (mbs) had buddhist studies from pri 1 all through to pri 6.

most of the time it was interesting except for 1 year, when this el loco teacher imposed compulsory tests and dictations on the learned contents.. :no:
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Posted 20 September 2006 - 04:35 AM

oh interesting i shall send my children to mbs in future=)
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