Welcome to the general guide to the CHF’s Ethnicities and Peoples forum and its important threads. Things can get pretty wild around here so General Zhaoyun wanted to make sure we got things organized. This is an attempt. If you’ve got a question or ideas, please take a look around and see if a similar topic has been addressed already and check out our threads for discussions you’d be able to contribute to. The threads are categorized here by vague geographic area, which might not always be the best move given the mobile nature of many of these histories, so this should just be understood to be a convenience. Thanks for stopping by!
NORTH by NORTHWEST
The ‘Five Hu:’ Where did they come from? Where did they go? Who should make the list? The Xiongnu, Jie, Di, Qiang and Xianbei
http://www.chinahist...hp?showtopic=75
The Xiongnu and the Huns: Connections?
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=1605
How about the Xiongnu and the Han? Were they the same people but diverged culturally under separate states?
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=2981
The Tiele (Teleg? Toquz Oghuz?) and today’s Turkic peoples
http://www.chinahist...p?showtopic=118
The Tujue (Gök Türkler) and the Turkic peoples. Today it’s the same word in Chinese, but what’s the deal?
http://www.chinahist...hp?showtopic=61
The complex ‘Ethnic origins of the Uighur people’
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=1650
When did the Uighurs become Muslim?
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=2322
NORTHEAST
The Malgals and the origins of the Manchu people: Are the Malgals really that mysterious, or just caught between histories?
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=2740
Origins of the Jurchen
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=3842
Hugely informative thread on the background of the Khitan
http://www.chinahist...p...4&hl=khitan
Two great threads with lots of pictures of the clothing of the conquest empires of the north and northeast:
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=2863
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=2903
Qing policies and later legends created by its detractors tend to make things complicated when we talk about ethnicity today, so it might be a good idea to check out the Qing Forum now and then for more ideas.
Many other discussions focusing on today’s Korea and Japan areas can be found in the CHF’s fantastic Asian History Section.
SOUTHWEST
Historical relations between Tibet and China
http://www.chinahist...p?showtopic=485
The world being a crazy place, Tibet discussions usually end up in the Current Affairs Forum.
SOUTH
Who are/were the ‘Cantonese’ people? Discuss their link with the Tang Empire and status in the world today
http://www.chinahist...p?showtopic=211
The Yue, Vietnam and lots of debate. History of the ‘Hundred Yue’ People
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=3798
More discussion, eventually focusing on the Zhuang
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=1997
Discuss the Hmong/Miao
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=1407
CENTER
At least a good sixth of the world’s population is understood to be Han, but who exactly are they? Are the Han even a coherent ethnic group? When were they ‘invented?’
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=2876
Are northern and southern Chinese people really as different as we think? Is this just regionalism talking, or is it because of divergent cultural histories? Are there genetic differences between the Northern and Southern Han?
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=2296
PROFILES
The heroic Karakhan’s threads by individual ethnic classification- always featuring tons of information and great pictures:
The Hui
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=1355
The Hezhe/Nanai
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=3986
The Jews of China
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=4235
The Solons/Evenks
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=4098
The Daur/Daower
http://www.chinahist...p?showtopic=901
The Salars
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=1303
The Saerta/Dongxiang
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=3259
Questioning the origins of the Modern Qiang
http://www.chinahist...p?showtopic=945
The Yi
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=8518
And Yihesan's list of Tujue rulers
http://www.chinahist...p...p;t=81&st=0
Got a question about ethnicities?
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tianzhuwoye
, May 03 2005 01:17 AM
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tianzhuwoye
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Posted 03 May 2005 - 01:17 AM
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Gubook Janggoon
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Posted 03 May 2005 - 01:48 AM
You know North by Northwest is a Hitchcock film right? Or am I just stating the obvious? 
"Don't be in a hurry to condemn because he doesn't do what you do or think as you think or as fast. There was a time when you didn't know what you know today." -Malcolm X
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tianzhuwoye
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- Entry Scholar (Xiucai)
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Grand Tutor (Taifu 太傅)
- Gender:Male
- Location:Heilongjiang University, Harbin
- Interests:Northeastern history and historical linguistics, early Qing, Parhae, Koguryeo, Jin Empire, Tungusic languages, the Liao Empire, warring states, An Lushan, "ethnicity" and "race" as non-issues. Also beer, karaoke and fighting nationalism everywhere.
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Posted 03 May 2005 - 07:13 AM
Try to imagine how beastly it would have been to carry that all the way down. Any suggestions?You know North by Northwest is a Hitchcock film right? Or am I just stating the obvious?
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