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Your Surname in the Three Kingdoms period

Started by qiankunzi , May 06 2005 01:05 PM

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#1 qiankunzi

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 01:05 PM

in the Romance of three Kingdom?

My Surname is 颜(yan)

颜良(Yan Liang) maybe is my Great Great Grandfather
1，吕布2，马超3，张飞4，赵云5，许储6，典韦7，文丑8，关羽9，黄忠10，颜良11，庞德
Oh mine is no. 10 in Three Kingdoms what about yours?

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#2 TigaKerajaan

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 01:33 PM

in the Romance of three Kingdom?

My Surname is 颜(yan)

颜良(Yan Liang) maybe is my Great Great Grandfather
1，吕布2，马超3，张飞4，赵云5，许储6，典韦7，文丑8，关羽9，黄忠10，颜良11，庞德
Oh mine is no. 10 in Three Kingdoms what about yours?

my surname is Qiu. my mother's surname is Liu

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#3 LüFengxian

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 03:48 PM

in the Romance of three Kingdom?

My Surname is 颜(yan)

颜良(Yan Liang) maybe is my Great Great Grandfather
1，吕布2，马超3，张飞4，赵云5，许储6，典韦7，文丑8，关羽9，黄忠10，颜良11，庞德
Oh mine is no. 10 in Three Kingdoms what about yours?

Yan Liang as in, one of Yuan Shao's top officers? I don't remember but I think I heard somewhere that he wasn't actually a real general during the 3 Kingdoms...

Hm, maybe Yun will come to clear this up (as I only have the sometimes semi-accurate Kongming.net bios to look at.) and help me out. Maybe I'm mistaken and it's just that Yan Liang wasn't as "fierce" as the novel made him out to be. However I'm not certain... :huh:

Mark ye the steed swift and tireless, see the dust, spurned by his hoofs, rising in clouds,
Now it swims the river, anon climbs the hill, rending the purple mist asunder,
Scornful it breaks the rein, shakes from its head the jeweled bridle,
It is as a fiery dragon descending from the highest heaven.

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#4 Guest_Emperor_*

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 05:44 PM

in the Romance of three Kingdom?

My Surname is 颜(yan)

颜良(Yan Liang) maybe is my Great Great Grandfather
1，吕布2，马超3，张飞4，赵云5，许储6，典韦7，文丑8，关羽9，黄忠10，颜良11，庞德
Oh mine is no. 10 in Three Kingdoms what about yours?

Mine is no. 3 (zhang 张)

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#5 Yun

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 07:35 PM

There is nothing in the SGZ to show that Yan Liang was a particularly good fighter. What Guan Yu did - which did take skill and courage - is charge into the middle of Yan Liang's army, catch him by surprise, and kill him with a lance (NOT a dadao).

There is also no record of Guan Yu killing Wen Chou.

The dead have passed beyond our power to honour or dishonour them, but not beyond our ability to try and understand.

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#6 MengTzu

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 07:55 PM

in the Romance of three Kingdom?

My Surname is 颜(yan)

颜良(Yan Liang) maybe is my Great Great Grandfather
1，吕布2，马超3，张飞4，赵云5，许储6，典韦7，文丑8，关羽9，黄忠10，颜良11，庞德
Oh mine is no. 10 in Three Kingdoms what about yours?

What do the numbers mean?

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#7 Yun

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 08:08 PM

I think he's ranking the strongest fighters in the RTK. That's a very arbitrary list, however, and has no basis in history.

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#8 MengTzu

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Posted 06 May 2005 - 09:49 PM

I think he's ranking the strongest fighters in the RTK. That's a very arbitrary list, however, and has no basis in history.

文丑 ranking before 关羽 seems way off.

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#9 snowybeagle

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Posted 07 May 2005 - 03:46 AM

My Surname is 颜(yan)
颜良(Yan Liang) maybe is my Great Great Grandfather

There was another general, Yan Yan (颜严), from the Shu (蜀), who had a better portrayal than Yan Liang. Yan Yan was a highly respected leader and formidable fighter who was persuaded to defect to serve Liu Bei.

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#10 Zhuge Kongming

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Posted 07 May 2005 - 07:27 AM

mine appear as a kingdom.. Wu Kingdom...
Wu Yi and Wu Ban of Shu...

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#11 lobster

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Posted 07 May 2005 - 10:23 AM

There was another general, Yan Yan (颜严), from the Shu (蜀), who had a better portrayal than Yan Liang. Yan Yan was a highly respected leader and formidable fighter who was persuaded to defect to serve Liu Bei.

His name is 嚴顏. You got it the other way around.