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[jiangji]

in most cases, north wins over the south(chinese history). maybe it is because north ahs more horse?

Its may be one of the factor. However, I still think it is mainly because the south at that time is still undeveloped and have less resources compare to the North.
The mongol, liao, Jin are all more warrior-state focus primary on their military strentght.

[Zhou Yu]

I doubt he would have had any significant influence. Jiang Wei was only a minor officer when he left Wei, and Wei had a heapload of talents to choose from. Plus Jiang Wei isn't that great to begin with.

AHHHHH thats not true lol Jiang Wei could have done alot better if zhuge would have not died. I mean think about it.... all of the knowledge he had obtained from being with zhuge... if only zhuge could have lived. The way I see it is like this...

Zhuge Liang was the #1 smartest man ( remember this is my veiw so please lets not debate over the smartest person) from the 3k era. If I where to trust anyone's judgement it would be his. Jiang Wei wasnt a normal general. He learned as much as he could and trained as much as he could. the one thing that i hate about this world is suicied so i didnt like that about him. Any way the point is that there is no general who is "not that great" all of them fought, learned, and accomplished few to many goals. If zhuge didnt die then maybe things would have been different for jiang wei.

Any ways to answer the question. If Jiang Wei would have stayed with Wei he would have never even came close to reaching his full potintial. Wei looked at him as a piece of crud. I dont know about all of u but id hate that. I belive everything that Jiang Wei did was right execept killing his self. Jiang Wei would have not been half the great man he was if it was not for his disision to join shu. I believe that verything happens for a reason and that happened as it should have.... wow did i type all of that lol.

[sima old bandit]

^Well you can like him more cos historically he was killed and did not commit suicide.

[青文景武剑]

if dengai were jiangwei, he would take over wei

[jiangji]

if dengai were jiangwei, he would take over wei

There was no evidence to prove that Jiang wei would overthrown Liu Chan. He is very loyal to Shu-Han.

[青文景武剑]

that's not what i meant, i meant dengai is better than jiangwei militarywise

[CARDINAL009]

[ "A man has to know his limits" ]

At the end, Jiang Wei didn't know his limits.

His ego was too big.

He didn't know the odds were against him.

The ending becomes obvious.

Another lesson of hubris is learned.

[Master Jiang KI]

that's not what i meant, i meant dengai is better than jiangwei militarywise

i dont think this was true. if jiang wei had more troops and a better passage for supplies to travel through instead of mountains then he would have defeated dengai. dengai was good at holding the shu-han army in check, but it wasnt hard to do since they were beating themselves with political and economical issues.

[CARDINAL009]

i dont think this was true. if jiang wei had more troops and a better passage for supplies to travel through instead of mountains then he would have defeated dengai. dengai was good at holding the shu-han army in check, but it wasnt hard to do since they were beating themselves with political and economical issues.

["What if "] this occur. ["What if"] that occur.

History rewards winners.

Edited by CARDINAL009, 21 July 2005 - 05:45 PM.

[sima old bandit]

If you read Jiang Wei & Deng Ai's bios i think you will see Deng Ai & others defeat Jiang Wei quite often.

Edited by sima old bandit, 20 July 2005 - 10:28 PM.

[CARDINAL009]

If you read Jiang Wei & Deng Ai's bios i think you will see Deng Ai & others defeat Jiang Wei quite often.

Winners writes history. Losers don't

[青文景武剑]

who's the winner?

[Zhou Yu]

Well when u think about it all jiang wei got out of shu was zhuge liang's knowledge. It kinda makes me wonder what would have happened if wu noticed jiang wei"s talents and recruited him instead of shu????

[CARDINAL009]

who's the winner?

Take a guess.

[Liu Bei]

Jiang Wei's Kung Fu kick @ss in the Three kingdoms TV series