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[Thaibebop]

That would get you funny looks

You mean from white people?

[WangEnlai]

Indeed. but esp African-american.

I think Nationality, like motherland affiliation. Would yours be the country you came from (even though you were not born there) or would it be the United States (the country where your living/been living)?

[Thaibebop]

Indeed. but esp African-american.

I think Nationality, like motherland affiliation. Would yours be the country you came from (even though you were not born there) or would it be the United States (the country where your living/been living)?

I am little different. America is an idea and a government was formed to support these ideas of how people wanted to live. When I say I am an American I am saying I believe in these ideas, not that I support the American government, and I support these ideas where ever they are, regardless under what government they flourish. So, supporting my nationality is pointless, for the governement can, will, and should change and this there to work for the people. I guess one could say that my motherland is America, I know that it can't be anything else, I am a mutt.

I did I answer your question, or just confuse the issue?

[WangEnlai]

I'm a mutt as well but less diverse.

I agree, do you think the American Dream still exist?

[Thaibebop]

I'm a mutt as well but less diverse.

I agree, do you think the American Dream still exist?

Yes it does. In anyone who believes in the rights of humans to live and be free. There are Americans born in China, France, all over the world. If they believe these things then they are Americans. I would think the ideas of freedom are safer outside of my home at the moment though. Most Americans today have forgotten what the whole thing was about. We have destroyed our past to suit are present needs and most have given up paying attention and have allowed others to make choices for them. We need to be reminded what the government really is and that these men and women who work in the government are civil servants, they do not control us and are not deserving of the glorification they get, they work for us. There is still some hope we haven't completely messed up.

[Kimchee]

There are Americans born in China, France, all over the world. If they believe these things then they are Americans. I would think the ideas of freedom are safer outside of my home at the moment though. Most Americans today have forgotten what the whole thing was about. We have destroyed our past to suit are present needs and most have given up paying attention and have allowed others to make choices for them. We need to be reminded what the government really is and that these men and women who work in the government are civil servants, they do not control us and are not deserving of the glorification they get, they work for us. There is still some hope we haven't completely messed up.

For the most part, I agree with you Thaibebop... that's why it's so important to get out and vote... even for the school elections, right??!! We need to choose the best people and put them in our government. But, too many citizens are apathetic, uninformed, and at times, just plain lazy. Too sad.

To answer the poll question... Nationality is more important to me... my heritage is composed of 3 different things... my son is the United Nations on two legs... ... But, we'll always be Americans. My ancesters worked so hard to come here and sacrificed so much so their families can flourish in this country... I could never turn my back on that.

And as far as the government? Perhaps I don't agree with everything that's being done, but these leaders were put into place by the majority of the people, and I'll support and respect them in their decisions. There are ways to voice your opinions if you disagree... When was the last time you had written to your congressman or senator to tell them how you felt about an issue? (Actually this question is rhetorical and not necessarily targeting you, unless you want to answer.) I firmly believe that the system works if we all participate.

-K

[Minty]

Hmmm I have lived in so many different places it is difficult to answer this question. I know I am more western than people living in China, Taiwan even HK, not so sure about SG probably the same in terms of westernization but I suppose there is still some differences because I am not Singaporean and I live in Western Europe. I am not at all superstitious which is not very Chinese at all. I still practice certain Chinese traditions but most of it has been washed down by westernisation, I have been "drinking too much western water."

Edited by Minty, 14 August 2006 - 05:00 PM.

[sg_han]

i am always a chinese....but one from singapore=)

[lanjingling]

Nationality? This word is refering to political lines drawn in the sand, so to speak. One should never be loyal to a government. It is a tool and should be treated as such. If it can't do the job required, you get another tool.

A government, a political party, a constitution are not only there to be efficient, they firstly supposed to promote some values. If you agree with your national values (who can change, of course), & if your government doesn't betray these values, then nationality can mean something. I'm not the "right or wrong, my country" type.

[Thaibebop]

For the most part, I agree with you Thaibebop... that's why it's so important to get out and vote... even for the school elections, right??!! We need to choose the best people and put them in our government. But, too many citizens are apathetic, uninformed, and at times, just plain lazy. Too sad.

To answer the poll question... Nationality is more important to me... my heritage is composed of 3 different things... my son is the United Nations on two legs... ... But, we'll always be Americans. My ancesters worked so hard to come here and sacrificed so much so their families can flourish in this country... I could never turn my back on that.

And as far as the government? Perhaps I don't agree with everything that's being done, but these leaders were put into place by the majority of the people, and I'll support and respect them in their decisions. There are ways to voice your opinions if you disagree... When was the last time you had written to your congressman or senator to tell them how you felt about an issue? (Actually this question is rhetorical and not necessarily targeting you, unless you want to answer.) I firmly believe that the system works if we all participate.

-K

I agree the system does work but it can be undermined and that is what Bush has done. The things he has done to the inner workerings of the government are just plain unnerving. I still feel that if people vote things can change, however, I really think the Eletroal College should be disbanned.

[Centaur]

I suppose I am first a Singaporean and then a Chinese. I call myself a Singaporean Chinese... suppose it really does not matter if I am called a Singapore Chinese or Chinese Singaporean. The only reason I put Singaporean Chinese is that my first loyalty is to my country.

[mawguy]

i chose ethnicity. there are definitely problems with identifying with either, as others have already mentioned, but to satisfy my need for belonging and defining my genetic heritage, i identify more with my ethnicity than my nationality.

[sg_han]

I suppose I am first a Singaporean and then a Chinese. I call myself a Singaporean Chinese... suppose it really does not matter if I am called a Singapore Chinese or Chinese Singaporean. The only reason I put Singaporean Chinese is that my first loyalty is to my country.

cool centaur you are even more loyal to singapore...i would put chinese singaporean because i am very aware of my race as a chinese just like many malays out there....haha....but i never fail to mention that i am a singaporean and this is where my loyalty will lie with...hmm....i cant decide should i put china second or thailand second lol...ok this is rubbish

[KLdome]

No strong feeling or understanding of either concept. That's not exactly Don't Care.....