Look at it this way. Vietnamese share so many basic words with Khmer that we can safely state that ancient Vietnamese were related to Khmer.
Yeah, you can make it a strong proof, but dchph thinks that lots of words are exported from Viet to Khmer. Looking farther to Indonesian we still find a little possibly shared words.
If ancient Vietnamese were indeed Yue then this should be a loose classifcation and Yue should not be interpreted as you did (i.e. all south barbarians were Yue, no matter what their language, culture).
It's said that their culture and language are quite similar, but with lots of variation. It's safe enough to think they are descended from same group. (not referring to Cantonese/Yue-Chinese)
Furthermore if ancient Vietnamese were Yue in South China then according to your Yue theory, Yue had no culture and as they migrated to Vietnam they were assimilated into Khmer culture.
Yue had no culture you said? The Yue had a culture, which seemed to share something with American Indian.
Thus Yue represented only a small proportion of ancient Vietnamese. Are you ready to accept that?
What's this meant to? The Au and Lac ethnics, who formed Au-Lac Nation, are part of BaiYue.
If ancient Vietnamese were Yue and shared some culture with Yue in South China and there were no migration then it is not appropriate for you to blame Han on supressing Yue because this does not make sense. You can't accuse somebody of maltreating another who happens to have the same name as yours.
No. There was no something called 'Yue Chinese'. The name seems to be a recent name. The 'Yue' name was given to Cantonese since their geographical location is in the 'Yue' territory recorded by Chinese.
blatantly claimed that you see most Vietnamse have south Chinese look? Do you think that arguement hold water? How could a small percentage of overseas Vietnamese represent the whole Vietnamese population? Not to mention that most boat people are of Chinese descent.
A large percentage of Vietnamese American are said to be Chinese descent. I was never able to believe that most Vietnamese look South Chinese, that's one of the reason my pictures were posted in 3 parts.
Grasy, i think you just know a little of Vietnamese culture and people through some websites and dictionary. Now you use that to counter-argue mine. Do you think I did not argue back because you were right? You should contemplate on this, my friend.
In fact I never stayed long in Vietnam, so I definitely not know much about Vietnamese.
When I traveled in China from north to south, from east to west although Chinese look different from region to region but one think I can safely say that they don't look anywhere like Vietnamese.
We can't see all people in a region at the glance so we take randomly the 'look'.
The look of people are not so uniform, even in one family everyone look different, right?
A few 'shared-look' who can be Vietnamese and South Chinese are observable (see my pics?). These looks only make a small part of both Vietnamese and South Chinese.
Perhaps Ethnic Chinese Indonesian look more Vietnamese?
One of my friend put it that Vietnamse look more quick-witted.
What's meant by 'quick-witted'??
Edited by qrasy, 19 July 2005 - 08:03 AM.