It is a common defense for people to say "oh well, it's too deadly, you can't use it in a sport..."
The style from Japan which becaome Brazillian Jiujitsu proved that wrong. Learning 'killing' moves without ever practicing them is not as practical as being able to practice less fatal moves constantly.
Someone who can train constantly in the application of not-so-fatal moves will gain great experience in what he can actually do. Someone who learns 'killing moves' but can't actually practice them has little experience with it.
Brazil is also known as a rather unruly country in certain parts, where street fights break out between rival schools. The martial arts world of Brazil is something like that of a Shaw brothers film! (well, maybe not as grandiose). There are rival schools with students that seek each other out to fight and see who's stronger.
"as for the claims of Russian Special forces when was the last time an on leave army ranger fought in the MMA fiasco? never.. and they never will because they put the MArtial in MArtial arts the military art of Killing plain and simple."
I remember Green beret has fought before. Keith Hackney was a Navy Seal for 8 years. I also doubt you really know that much about MMA, you just seem like someone who hates on simply because it 'opposes' traditional martial arts. How many active military personell learn Chinese martial arts? That doesn't go to validate or invalidate Chinese forms.
yes, Pride FC and UFC are sports organizations, they want to keep their fighters in good form so they can fight again to entertain the crowd. But even with rules, it is still closer to actually seeing who's the strongest. Maybe it's just me, but I put more credit into actually watching a fight than just reading about a style, and the environment of MMA is that of athletes training year round to fight, I think that has some credibility.
do you want to see throat crushing and eye gouging? Find vale tudo matches. That means 'anything goes'. Literally. Somewhat common in Brazil.
It just seems defenders of Chinese styles just think up of various excuses as to why Chinese martial artists are nonexistant in the modern martial arts world. There are no Chinese in any MMA organizations, or any that fight in vale tudo matches. When it comes down to it, they have never fought in them, not at all. It is ok to say that some discourage competitive fighting, but then to claim utter superiority when having proven nothing at all seems wrong.
I'd love to see Chinese martial artists come in and kick ***, but it's never happened! There's gotta be some way to get Chinese into MMA.
Truth be told, alot of 'traditional martial arts' guys in early UFC really weren't masters and mostly full of hot air.
It would be fantastic to have someone who is credibly well trained and in exellent shape fight in MMA.
I really shouldn't say that TCM's are inferior, it's more... they're unproven. I just don't see any of it in these fights.
It would be like... if someone is awesome at basketball, but you never see him play, and he doesn't play people in the NBA. What credibility does he have?http://www.putfile.c...php?n=hahahomie
but Kungfu still works on occasion
Edited by TMPikachu, 20 July 2005 - 11:25 AM.
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