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#16 Kulong

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 11:42 AM

I just watched "Supersize Me" a few days ago, and it mentioned that Houston was until recently the fattest city in the US, but was then beaten by Detroit.

All the hard work paid off :lol:
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Posted 07 August 2004 - 01:29 PM

Read Ribbons by Lawrence Yep.

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Posted 07 August 2004 - 11:15 PM

Is there any links to Ribbons?
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Posted 08 August 2004 - 12:02 AM

As I said before, I live in Detroit, and its not that bad. But in our "Society" is crazy on weight in general. Every week an new way to lose weight is introduced. Its always in the news. My dad works in the news, and is outraged a the amount of media attention it gets. And now the fast food industy is trying to get in on it (the very people who played a big part in getting us fat). Atkins friendly sh^%. All this bullsh&* about losing it quick and easy. My self being a wreslter know that its harder then anyone. But through wreslting I found that all it takes (usually) is will power. Now were using gastro (sp?) bi pass surgry.

The root of this problem? I'm not sure, if I had to guess i would say its cause of techonolgy. We have every thing automated, and have to do less and less physical work. Also is food is getting in bigger and bigger (portion wise). And its getting more and more fatting.

American's (mostly women) are stupid when it comes weight lossing. Watching what you eat only tackles part the problem. In my opinion weight loss played the biggest reason that Oprah became a billionare. I'm glad that there are no women on this forum yet, because when it comes down to it, true weight loss takes will power. Will power that not many women, ergo they don't lose enough, and they end up going to get lipo cause they give up, or go crying to shows like Oprah. More likey in America today they don't even try and go to Oprah, anyways. If you truly want to lose weight, you watch what you eat and work out (Hard), that walking bullsh*^ won't cut it. Cause today people are looking for real results. True work is how you do it.

In a slightly realted event, in the American movie "Mean Girls", there is a joke in the movie when one of the girls says she wants to lose weight, and waits to the others girls to reasure her that she is thin. You have to see the movie to get the joke. But the idea is it is becoming more and more common for teens in highschool (and even middle school) to watch their weight, and worry about things like that. When I talk to girls who say their trying to loss weight I feel the urge to laugh at them, cause very few (I mean VERY few) kids are successful. But the point is young people are becoming more and more conscience of their weight (in a bad way). And its just pushing us to become a more and more weight obbessesed society/country.

I'm not much better I have worked at lossing weight at my age. But my excuse is for losing is wrestling (weight classes), not because I wanna look better at the beach. My family by genes are large, but I myself am not, because simlpy I work, I don't sit on my a** (unless I'm not this Forum) I work out, in Wreslting season I work out for 3 hours a day, 4 hours on saturday, and by work out I mean work out harder then any stupid %ss Oprah crying &^tch. Weigt loss is a matter of hard work and will power, nothing more.

If you don't want to work hard, you might as well be happy with your weight (Cause there is nothing wrong with that), and not be a bit&% about it and cry to Oprah.

Just an opinion from a guy who feels he has an understanding on weight loss.

I understand this maybe be a bit hostle and needed to be edited, go ahead and edit it or W/E. I also hope the a Mod could move this and the realted posts on here to a new seprate thread in the Dragon Gate INN.

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 06:26 PM

I'm going to have to really dig into the history of the 10c . Who did what and who conquered who. There's something being covered up there.
The real history. Nothing this extreme has an origin except to prevent women from running away from the conquerors.

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:08 PM

Just curious, did Tang dynasty woman bind their feet? I only heard of Qing dynasty woman binding their feet.


During the Qing dynasty....the Manchus didn't bind their feet.Only the Han women did...right?
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Posted 05 April 2006 - 07:34 PM

During the Qing dynasty....the Manchus didn't bind their feet.Only the Han women did...right?


Not only Manchu but also woman from the Han martial and Mongol banners were not permitted to bind their feet.

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 08:09 PM

Unfortunately, I still could remember my mother grumbling at my large, unbind feet, when I was still a wee little girl. I still recall her saying, something about my big feet. (My mother's feet was definitely smaller than mine) She said during her grandmother's days - it was important to have bind feet, if not it would be almost impossible to get a good husband - well, this myth went busted as far as I am concern. But, yeah, small feet during my grandmother's time was still the vogue!

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Posted 05 April 2006 - 11:47 PM

Unfortunately, I still could remember my mother grumbling at my large, unbind feet, when I was still a wee little girl. I still recall her saying, something about my big feet. (My mother's feet was definitely smaller than mine) She said during her grandmother's days - it was important to have bind feet, if not it would be almost impossible to get a good husband - well, this myth went busted as far as I am concern. But, yeah, small feet during my grandmother's time was still the vogue!



Wow lucky for you, otherwise can you imagine if your mum had said yes? :lol:

btw, do u know now BATA dont sell size 4 anymore? instead they increase their largest shoe size from 9 to 10! :ranting: :ranting: do we really have that many size 10 feet size than size 4 here? :g:

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Posted 06 April 2006 - 01:22 AM

Wow lucky for you, otherwise can you imagine if your mum had said yes? :lol:

btw, do u know now BATA dont sell size 4 anymore? instead they increase their largest shoe size from 9 to 10! :ranting: :ranting: do we really have that many size 10 feet size than size 4 here? :g:


It must be something to do with inflation... they want us to think we have larger feet and so justify the higher price!

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Posted 06 April 2006 - 02:57 AM

Not all Han women bind their feet. The Hakka wouldn't have their feet bound. Our women are strong, powerful and would kick you out of our forts.
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Posted 06 April 2006 - 12:12 PM

None of the poor women bound their feet, those that does are only the minority.

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Posted 06 April 2006 - 10:35 PM

None of the poor women bound their feet, those that does are only the minority.


True, I understand only girls from well to do families get their feet bound. And yes, Hakkas and the less well off don't bind their girls' feet. This was because the girls were need to work - some even go down to the fields.

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Posted 07 April 2006 - 07:58 PM

True, I understand only girls from well to do families get their feet bound. And yes, Hakkas and the less well off don't bind their girls' feet. This was because the girls were need to work - some even go down to the fields.

Untrue according to what I've read. However, poor or peasant women bound their feet more loosely than women of higher econimic status. Thus, poor or peasant women had artifically small feet, but were still able to do a fair amount of physical labor.

For an interesting article which includes info on footbinding click here.
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Posted 07 April 2006 - 08:03 PM

When I went to China, my teacher in a tourist shop bought this amazingly small shoes. And I asked her what they where, and she said that replicas of shoes wore by women of that time. She said that back then women would bind and break there feet at a very young age and their feet would not grow more then three inchs (literally).


Sort of. However, keep in mind that the tiny shoes, to some extent, created an optical illusion. It's hard to describe in words, but they only covered the lower third or so of the "lotus" (bound) foot. Nevertheless, yes in the "bad" old days women's feet were bound and kept amazingly and artificially small.

In the 1970s one could still occasionally see elderly Chinese women in New York's Chinatown hobbling on bound feet.
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