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[chan4059]

If I have curly hair and I am Cantonese I want to know where does this part of the genes come from I mean most people in China have straight hair right??

[chinawhu]

People from central China and northern part have straight hairs.
Some people from west and northwest(like Tibet, Xinjiang) have curly hair.
btw it seems that not all cantonese's hair are curly.

Maybe it's because of the hot whether in Canton but not the genes

Edited by chinawhu, 04 August 2005 - 12:24 AM.

[chan4059]

People from central China and northern part have straight hairs.
Some people from west and northwest(like Tibet, Xinjiang) have curly hair.
btw it seems that not all cantonese's hair are curly.

Maybe it's because of the hot whether in Canton but not the genes

I know that but then I am thinking ...that some koreans have curly hair too and that I believe that curly hair provide like an ability to trapped heat from escaping as fast therefore I think that they are from the north..

[qrasy]

I know that but then I am thinking ...that some koreans have curly hair too and that I believe that curly hair provide like an ability to trapped heat from escaping as fast therefore I think that they are from the north..

I think the heat of sun has an effect of destructing biological matters like hair.
After a long generation I suspect that it may be 'naturalised' to be your gene..
(I'm not a good biologist at all)

[chinawhu]

I know that but then I am thinking ...that some koreans have curly hair too and that I believe that curly hair provide like an ability to trapped heat from escaping as fast therefore I think that they are from the north..

Are you sure that curly hair can prevent heat from escaping?

In my mind, the people in the north often have straight hair, and people in hot area have curly hair(e.g. people in Africa)

[chan4059]

Are you sure that curly hair can prevent heat from escaping?

In my mind, the people in the north often have straight hair, and people in hot area have curly hair(e.g. people in Africa)

True but then it's my logic...But then I am talking about people in Asia... I mean I know alot of Koreans that have curly hair and aren't they in the North...

[qrasy]

True but then it's my logic...But then I am talking about people in Asia... I mean I know alot of Koreans that have curly hair and aren't they in the North...

Yes, that's what I want to say for this. Sunshine can break your hair structure so you develop curls. That's why Australoids are more curly than other Eurasians. (although Australian aborigines look dark, but genetically they are closer to Eurasians than Africans).

If you think it's genetical (your other family members also have) then maybe you are Semu descendant.. (Do you know SeMu?)

[chinawhu]

If you think it's genetical (your other family members also have) then maybe you are Semu descendant.. (Do you know SeMu?)

No, will be very grateful if you can explain

[qrasy]

SeMu 色目 is a term for foreigners in Mongol Yuan dynasty.
I'm not really sure about this but it seems that it includes Arabs.

Youn should ask the expert.

[chan4059]

No I dont know what is SeMu and the chineese word I never heard of before....hmm...if u are saying that and if it is true then people of korea that have curly hair has semu in them too...and all the other chinese that posses curly hair...?? My great great grandfather's dad is a manchu minister I don't know if he was Manchu but then ....I want to know if the Manchus have curly hair or wavy hair....my hair is not like african curly but it's abundant and wavy wavy whcih can form a fro if I dont blow dry it or anything...some of my mom uncle have curly hair and some of my uncle and dad have curly hair..were 100% chinese maybe not pure sinid though, becasue we are cantonese...

Edited by chan4059, 05 August 2005 - 03:05 PM.

[qrasy]

I want to know if the Manchus have curly hair or wavy hair....

I'm not sure about this.

my hair is not like african curly but it's abundant and wavy wavy whcih can form a fro if I dont blow dry it or anything...

I know. In Indonesia you can find people from very straight hair to very curly hair.
The wavy hair is quite common in Indonesia.

some of my mom uncle have curly hair and some of my uncle and dad have curly hair..were 100% chinese maybe not pure sinid though, becasue we are cantonese...

What does 'because we are Cantonese' mean?

Edited by qrasy, 06 August 2005 - 12:46 AM.

[chan4059]

I'm not sure about this.
I know. In Indonesia you can find people from very straight hair to very curly hair.
The wavy hair is quite common in Indonesia.
What does 'because we are Cantonese' mean?

catonese people are not considered pure sinid or something like that becasue we are believe to be mixed with the aboriginals in the area of the south before the Hans conquered it...so that's why we are not pure sinids.

[kaixin]

In the past, many Persian and Arab merchants had traded and settled in Guangdong. It wouldn't be surprising if this is the source of your curly/wavy hair. Unfortunately, many of those merchants also got slaughtered from time to time as well.

[qrasy]

catonese people are not considered pure sinid or something like that becasue we are believe to be mixed with the aboriginals in the area of the south before the Hans conquered it...so that's why we are not pure sinids.

I'm not sure if 'Sinid' is a good definition. I saw some web with images of humans that distinguish 'NordSinid', 'Mittelsinid', 'Sudsinid'. The aboriginals should belong to 'Sudsinids'. Those ones easily confuses with Thai and Viet.
Look at modern Qiangs, they should be a good standard for 'Sinid's.

In the past, many Persian and Arab merchants had traded and settled in Guangdong.  It wouldn't be surprising if this is the source of your curly/wavy hair.  Unfortunately, many of those merchants also got slaughtered from time to time as well.

In the Yuan dynasty, there were 4 'caste's, from highest to lowest, Mongol, SeMu (foreigners), Han(? I'm not sure about this 3rd caste), South People(refers to remnants of Southern Song dynasty).
SeMu people were considered higher 'caste' than 'South people', the 'aborigines' of China. When Ming Dynasty rose up, they started to persecute SeMu people. Then many of the Semu descendants changed their surnames to avoid murder.

Edited by qrasy, 07 August 2005 - 01:13 AM.

[kaixin]

^Persians and Arabs got murdered in Guangdong during the Tang Dynasty (Huang Chao Rebellion). 200,000 of them got massacred. Not sure how many survived.