Money cannot buy protection or respect.
Many of us Chinese-Americans were filled with rage what those Indonesian Muslim terrorists did to ethnic Chinese couple years ago. We were more mad when China did not say or do anything about it.
I hope that many Chinese-Indonesian 'qiaobao' who have the means to immigrate to safer and stable nations, please do so. For your better future.
I know about that thatís why I donít really like to visit Indonesia for vacations even though my husband has been promoting me to go to Bali and commented on what a great vacation spot it is over there.
I think the saddest perception of Indonesian Chinese is the enforced loss of their cultural heritage (including language, names) and other basic human rights. I suspect the current Indonesian leaders have woken up to the fact that China will be a dominant force in the future and that they cannot continue to trample on the human rights of Chinese Indonesians. But the leopard never changes its spots. The long term solution for Chinese Indonesians who want to remain Chinese is perhaps emigration.
Yeah, I absolutely am very upset about this fact. I also find it hard to speak to Indonesian Chinese because of this. But with whites even they donít understand Chinese culture but they are not Chinese so thatís ok, but in the case of Indonesian Chinese it is just sad.
I've personally met a few young Chinese-Indonesians at a local community gathering I participated here in northern California USA to provide emotional and financial supports to them during the period of anti-Chinese racial riots in Indonesia.I noticed they didn't speak Chinese at all or didn't act Chinese culturally in any way.So,we communicated with them in English and made them feel acceptedly comfortable.Chinese-Indonesians don't seem to look as Chinese as those Malaysia-born ethnic Chinese,is it due to intermarried with native population for many ethnic-Chinese families or it's just the climate and food ?
Itís because they have been forcefully to be assimilated. I am from Malaysia originally and I am Chinese but I would say my ďchinesenessĒ is higher than the average Malaysian Chinese because my mother is Taiwanese. Some Indonesian Chinese actually they think Malaysian Chinese is like them, I met so many of them who tried to speak Indonesian to me in Australia. I went to Chinese school in Malaysia and our Malay is rather poor compare to those who went to Malay school, plus I move to Australia since I was 12 I honesty do not remember how to speak Malay.
We are closer to Singapore but in Singapore the majority is Chinese and their English is better than ours on average. Itís also more expensive in Singapore but itís a small country, so it is much easier to develop into a developed country. But in terms of my spoken mandarin, mine is just like the Taiwaneseís mandarin and I can read both traditional Chinese as well as simplified because my mother is Taiwanese and in Malaysia simplified Chinese is used. But my level is only up to newspaper or novels level, because majority of my education turned into English.
More than 1 million Indonesian workers in Malaysia.
They make up a high percentage of crime rate in this country.
A normal perception to these people are - they can behave violently, unlike the local Malay!
Indonesian under Dutch rule has inherited a very bad tradition. Unlike British, the Dutch has used violence against the native. Sometimes the Dutch diverted the anger of the native onto the Chinese to defuse the outrage against his unpopular rule.
When British comes to the Malay States in the Peninsular of Malaya, he exploited the weakness of the sultans to gain political concensus. Little force was used. Gradually each and every state fell under the British rule. The Chinese was imported to work hard for tin ore. The Indian was imported to work in the rubber estate. The Malay was left to work in the Paddy field and some administration work. Even the army was imported from Nepal!
Under this scenario, the enforcement of LAW is very important.
You need a good legal system to allow the ball game of the "divide and rule" works.
The British has left a legacy that are still very much intact until today - "if you guys fight in parliament , there is always a line one has to stop physically", a taiwanese's comment.
The Dutch was obviously lacking in this vision.
Hmm true I think, because even though we had been colonised by the British we donít really hate them, most Malaysians (Malays, Chinese, and Indians) look up to Britain still, and we are still in the commonwealth club and we still use English in our official documents.
The criminal Indonesian generals and soldiers should be brought to Hague international court. China's attitude was too soft toward indonesia. It should order the South China sea fleet open fire and launch several cruise missiles to those riots to show our outrage Instead, it only exerted diplomatic stress which was far than enough.
I donít think by using the military is such a good idea, just look at what happened to Americaís reputation after they went to invade Iraq, China today still has a very poor reputation in the world, I would suggest China be very careful in her decisions.
Is there ever a grass-roots movement within Chinese community push the extreme wealthy ethnic Chinese to fund education scholarships for some bright Indonesia-born ethnic Chinese to study overseas ?
Well the Malaysian Chinese schools are funded by rich Chinese; the Malays do not contribute to any of our community or expenses. Yet they make rules like making Chinese white collars employ a certain percentage of them. They already get access to some thing like 95 percent Universities entrance in Malaysia and almost all the blue collar jobs, and they still ask for more. When I go back to Malaysia for vacations the Malay officer in the airport bother me about my Aussie passport and just speak Malay to me like I definitely will know how to. My sister told the guy we immigrated young to Australia. This is when he stopped. I donít keep my Malay language because it is not important plus I am ethnically not Malay I am Australian now. I still keep a certin amount of my Chinese cultures because I am Chinese but I donít see any point of speaking Malay. However I have evolved to suit the western lifestyle because it is necessary when you live in Western countries.
Does PRC presently have an " open door policy " design for SE Asia-born ethnic Chinese to study in mainland China through government funding ? I recall,Taiwan did an excellent job recruiting young bright ethnic Chinese to study at various colleges in the 1960's-1980's.
Yep my father is one of those who benefited through this funding; he won a scholarship and graduated from Tai Ta University (the best University of Taiwan of the time).
Total population of Chinese in Malaysia is very large, 33% of total. (Malaysia only have 50% Malay population)
Compare to Indonesia: a few million among 200+ millions.
Mmm is this a new statistics? When I learnt back in Uni, it was 28 percent Chinese, 9 percent Indians and 63 percent Malays.
I would love to move to Singapore or Malaysia. From what I have heard, to become a Singaporean PR, you have to either rich or able to find a job in Singapore with good salaries.
Most of us simply cannot move elsewhere cos nobody wants us to move in. If I can move to either Malaysia or Singapore I would not stay here anymore
You can try to get married with a Chinese from Malaysia or get a job in Malaysia.