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[Sephodwyrm]

Chinese politics are born from the gun barrel.

So sayeth Chiang Kai Shek.
Generalissimo of the Republic of China, Chiang, like his arch-rival Mao Tse-Tung, were both ambitious men who both wanted greatness for China, and ended up being advocated as heroes or painted as villains.

History would be the ultimate judge. Although a brutal and sometimes inefficient leader, Chiang did enjoy some success in making ROC the dominant power in China for a short while. His connections to the US brought numerous invaluable aid that helped a great deal during the Anti-Occupation war.

[Chiang Kai-shek]

Chinese politics are born from the gun barrel.

So sayeth Chiang Kai Shek.
Generalissimo of the Republic of China, Chiang, like his arch-rival Mao Tse-Tung, were both ambitious men who both wanted greatness for China, and ended up being advocated as heroes or painted as villains.

History would be the ultimate judge. Although a brutal and sometimes inefficient leader, Chiang did enjoy some success in making ROC the dominant power in China for a short while. His connections to the US brought numerous invaluable aid that helped a great deal during the Anti-Occupation war.

He is a great man who is often misunderstood by people.

[Yun]

Chinese politics are born from the gun barrel.

So sayeth Chiang Kai Shek.

Wasn't it Mao who said something like that?

[naruwan]

Wasn't it Mao who said something like that?

It was Mao. From the sources I found. But I'd like to be proven wrong.

[Sephodwyrm]

Nah. Chiang was acting along similar lines. They were both militarists, except that Chiang did his share of politics out of the gun barrel earlier.

[Insignificant]

Mao said something just a little different: "Power grows from the barrel of a gun"

[DomaHwang]

Mao said something just a little different: "Power grows from the barrel of a gun"

Wasn't it from Lenin?

[Chiang Kai-shek]

Why i like Chiang Kai-shek? Because his thinking and character is quite similar to mine. I love some of his quotes:

We live in the present, we dream of the future and we learn eternal truths from the past."

[Insignificant]

Wasn't it from Lenin?

Yea, I think Lenin said that too, now that you remind me.
They all say the same thing.

Wasn't Chiang a fervently devout Confucianist?

[Yun]

He was both a Confucian and a converted Christian, but I believe his Christianity was never much beneath the surface. He converted so as to marry Song Meiling.

[Insignificant]

Confucianism is a philosphy while Christianity is a religion, so technically a person can adhere to both. But I suppose some of the ethics clash...

[Sephodwyrm]

I think Chiang's conversion has a lot of implications and political advantages, just as marrying Song Meiling has done for him as well.

In any case, a load of soldiers under Chiang Kai Shek converted to Christianity, my grandfather included.

[superquarterback]

Why i like Chiang Kai-shek? Because his thinking and character is quite similar to mine. I love some of his quotes:

We live in the present, we dream of the future and we learn eternal truths from the past."

In the reign of chaos, there come heroes and villains.
Both Chiang and Mao are talented men, no doubt about it. Both had contributed to China, for its survival and its ruin. The most important question is what for they used their talents ? To achieve their own power and wealth (especially Chiang)

If I were you, I would not impersonate both of them. Their reputations are tainted.

Edited by superquarterback, 18 August 2005 - 02:34 AM.

[yehzhaofeng]

Didn't CHiang sleep with under-aged women?

[Sephodwyrm]

Yes. But back then there's not really such laws to make that illegal I guess.