Anyone here is a fan of Zhao Yun and agree that he is better than guan yu and zhang fei ?
Zhao Yun
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, Sep 20 2005 11:02 AM
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 11:02 AM
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 11:12 AM
As you may well know, my name is modelled after Zhao Yun, and I'm a fan of Zhao Yun....
I came to know Zhao Yun after playing RTK games...regarding martial arts, I think, he was of equal match to Guan Yu or ZhangFei
I came to know Zhao Yun after playing RTK games...regarding martial arts, I think, he was of equal match to Guan Yu or ZhangFei
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 12:05 PM
In martial skill, Zhao Yun performed no feat comparable to those of Guan Yu and Zhang Fei, who were known as "a match for ten thousand men" (wanren di 万人敌). But in tactics and strategy, he was clearly wiser.
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 12:36 PM
Actually beside saving Liu Chan, which turns out to be a mistake, he is of no significant in Three Kingdoms.
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 04:13 PM
Actually beside saving Liu Chan, which turns out to be a mistake, he is of no significant in Three Kingdoms.
Are you kidding me? Zhao Yun had a tremendous effect on the Shu kingdom, are you just basing these "facts" on the DW game.
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 05:51 PM
In the novel i liked him as he did not seem to have the big flaws Zhang & Guan had but even in the novel he did not seem to have the ability of the other 2.
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 06:15 PM
Are you kidding me? Zhao Yun had a tremendous effect on the Shu kingdom, are you just basing these "facts" on the DW game.
No and please, i read SGZ and RTK and know fairly well. I am just stating my opinion and compare him to other characters.
You are acting like a fanboy to Zhao Yun...
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 08:40 PM
Zhao Yun is overrated in the novel,who wasnt that important in history.
He kecks butt in the novel though.
He kecks butt in the novel though.
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Posted 20 September 2005 - 11:00 PM
Zhao Yun was a good general for Shu. The novel exaggerates his abilities, but we can't blame Zhao Yun for that.
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 12:59 AM
In fighting , i don't think he lose to guan or zhang .. even ma chao didnt lose to zhang fei.. and zhao has good morale and character compare to guan and zhang.. he not as rash as them and more calm and discipline..
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 01:03 AM
In fighting , i don't think he lose to guan or zhang .. even ma chao didnt lose to zhang fei.. and zhao has good morale and character compare to guan and zhang.. he not as rash as them and more calm and discipline..
You're talking about the novel. In history, Ma Chao and Zhang Fei never had a duel.
In history, it is also not mentioned anywhere that Zhao Yun had to fight off an army single-handedly to rescue Liu Shan and Lady Gan. All he did was stay with them and escort them to safety, unlike Liu Bei who ran off without them.
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 04:55 AM
Zhao Yun wouldnt stand up to themIn fighting , i don't think he lose to guan or zhang ..
..even ma chao didnt lose to zhang fei
Thats in the novel,and Ma Chao is always very overrated
and zhao has good morale and character compare to guan and zhang
But that wouldnt always help you win,look at Cao Cao.He wasnt a moral guy,but he got things done.
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Posted 22 September 2005 - 09:54 PM
Wait wait wait, are you talking about the Zhao Yun in the novel or the historical Zhao Yun here ?
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Posted 23 September 2005 - 08:03 PM
Zhao yun seems to in the novel be more like A Jiang Wei than a guan or Zhang Fei.
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Posted 24 September 2005 - 06:44 PM
defended against Yuan Shao for Tian Kai
Saved Liu Chan and Lady Gan at Chang Ba
beat Xiahou Dun at Slope of Bowang
captured Xiahou Lan alive
w/ Zhang Fei, prevented Wu from kidnapping Liu Chan
launched succesful attacks on the lands of Shu
saved Huang Zhong (after he beat Xiahou Yuan, Zhong went further into the Wei lands to try and take the Wei supply lines, but Cao Cao trapped him)
Saved Zhang Zhu
used a modified empty city ruse on Cao Cao
distracted Cao Zhen and retreated without a recorded death.
Seems pretty impressive to me.
Saved Liu Chan and Lady Gan at Chang Ba
beat Xiahou Dun at Slope of Bowang
captured Xiahou Lan alive
w/ Zhang Fei, prevented Wu from kidnapping Liu Chan
launched succesful attacks on the lands of Shu
saved Huang Zhong (after he beat Xiahou Yuan, Zhong went further into the Wei lands to try and take the Wei supply lines, but Cao Cao trapped him)
Saved Zhang Zhu
used a modified empty city ruse on Cao Cao
distracted Cao Zhen and retreated without a recorded death.
Seems pretty impressive to me.
Edited by Iamnick, 13 December 2005 - 01:07 PM.
I like the smilies. 
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