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#46 Thaibebop

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Posted 07 November 2006 - 03:05 PM

The armour of Akechi Mitsuhide, killer of Oda Nobunaga during the Honnoji jiken of 1582

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from; http://www.fredmiran...o...um&cat=3752

Wow, that is great!! Do they have other famous suits of armor?
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Posted 08 November 2006 - 10:29 AM

Wow, that is great!! Do they have other famous suits of armor?


Quite a few but most sets of armour now seem to reside in private collections or in overseas museums.
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Posted 08 November 2006 - 11:27 AM

Quite a few but most sets of armour now seem to reside in private collections or in overseas museums.

It's just really cool to see something of what these historical figures looked like. I am a romantic I guess and love trying to bridge that time gap.
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Posted 08 November 2006 - 12:43 PM

I wonder how close japanese armor would've been to contemporary mainland designs, though it seems alot harder to find a good picture of a chinese armor, and near impossible to find a real suit that's not Qing or a pile of rust dug out of a tomb.

Though I'd like to know especially how much Tang influence there is in their armor design.

Edited by TMPikachu, 08 November 2006 - 12:43 PM.

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Posted 08 November 2006 - 01:04 PM

I wonder how close japanese armor would've been to contemporary mainland designs, though it seems alot harder to find a good picture of a chinese armor, and near impossible to find a real suit that's not Qing or a pile of rust dug out of a tomb.

Though I'd like to know especially how much Tang influence there is in their armor design.

Almost all the Chinese armor I have seen reminds me of Roman, very functional and geared towards movement. There are a few pieces that didn't fit that, but I think they were ceremonial siuts. I am sure I have not seen all there is to see though.
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Posted 08 November 2006 - 02:04 PM

Almost all the Chinese armor I have seen reminds me of Roman, very functional and geared towards movement.


I think form fits function across all cultures. With the matters of life and death being serious business, practical protection would probably wind up with similiar results no matter where one is (well with limitations on material).
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Posted 08 November 2006 - 03:57 PM

I wonder how close japanese armor would've been to contemporary mainland designs, though it seems alot harder to find a good picture of a chinese armor, and near impossible to find a real suit that's not Qing or a pile of rust dug out of a tomb.

Though I'd like to know especially how much Tang influence there is in their armor design.


Similarities were not pronounced. Japanese armour after the Kofun/Asuka period and before the Sengoku period was, AFAIK, leather lamellar strung together with cord and very boxy in appearance. A marked contrast to the Chinese armour seen in paintings.

See paintings of Ming warriors here.
http://www.flickr.co...s/93862654@N00/

This Ming painting from my other thread is also worth a look.
http://www.mcah.colu...9_041504_21.jpg
http://www.mcah.colu...9_041504_22.jpg

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Posted 09 November 2006 - 10:30 AM

Similarities were not pronounced. Japanese armour after the Kofun/Asuka period and before the Sengoku period was, AFAIK, leather lamellar strung together with cord and very boxy in appearance. A marked contrast to the Chinese armour seen in paintings.


Quite. See post #36 for diagram of Yoroi, worn from at least 11th Century to even 16th Century (in case of daimyo like Imagawa Yoshimoto (d.1560).
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Posted 09 November 2006 - 12:58 PM

I think form fits function across all cultures. With the matters of life and death being serious business, practical protection would probably wind up with similiar results no matter where one is (well with limitations on material).

I agree, except I when it comes to European middle ages armor. That has taken some research to figrue out way they did things the way they did, not really clear all the time.
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Posted 26 December 2006 - 09:20 PM

Someone posted a list of imageshack pics of famous samurai armor. Could whoever did that try to post them up again? They were lost in the recent forum crash.

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Posted 29 December 2006 - 07:50 AM

It was me, I will post then again when this connection problem due to earthquake could be fixed.
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Posted 22 January 2007 - 07:01 AM

Some pictures courtesy of Slick:

Traded Armor

~I took this picture in the Tower of London. It's a suit of samurai armor that was sent by Tokugawa Hidetada, Ieyasu's successor, to King James I of England. :D

And the rest of the pictures were not taken by me, but were taken at a museum...

Takeda Shingen (?) Armor

Samurai Helmet

Samurai Suit of Armor

Armor of an Oda Samurai

Suit of Armor worn by Nobunaga (?)

And something I found online-

Kabuto (helmet) said to have been donned by Ishida Mitsunari, the commander of the coalition against Tokugawa Ieyasu at the battle of Sekigahara

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Edited by SlickSlicer, 22 January 2007 - 07:05 AM.

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Posted 24 February 2007 - 09:16 AM

As Nagaeyari requested, here are some pictures of samurai armors, I don't know where these pics come from, I took them from a forum long time ago.

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Takeda Shingen's armor

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Toyotomi Hideoshi's armor

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Mori Motonari's armor

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Tokugawa Ieyasu's armor

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Another Tukugawa Ieyasu's armor
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Posted 24 February 2007 - 11:52 AM

Beautiful :)

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Posted 25 February 2007 - 06:26 AM

You welcome, always a pleasure.
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