Three Kingdoms questions, we got answers
Posted 21 August 2004 - 01:53 PM
Posted 25 August 2004 - 03:06 PM
Posted 25 August 2004 - 05:31 PM
Sun Jian had the style Wentai and was a man from Fuchun in Wujun. It was very likely that he was a descendant of Sun Wu.
Posted 25 August 2004 - 07:11 PM
Posted 25 August 2004 - 07:20 PM
But I do know that during the end of Han Aidi's reign there was a man named Kong Guang, who was the 14th descendant of Confucius. And this is about 500 years after Conufucius's life, this family had a vivid memeroy and a family tree (I assume) of their liniage. This is why I find it strange that they aren't sure about Sun Tzu.
Liu Ce, in the Three Kingdoms they use the saying "Same family of 500 years ago" or somthing like that. But it means if you have the same surname but no blood connection you say that your family was realted over 500 years ago.
Posted 25 August 2004 - 07:54 PM
I think there is a singer in Taiwan right now who is a descendent of Confucius. :mellow:
But I do know that during the end of Han Aidi's reign there was a man named Kong Guang, who was the 14th descendant of Confucius. And this is about 500 years after Conufucius's life, this family had a vivid memeroy and a family tree (I assume) of their liniage.
I think maybe some of these famous people's descendent had married into his wife's house and take her name. Thus they no longer use the same last name and people forget them.
Posted 25 August 2004 - 09:47 PM
Posted 25 August 2004 - 11:28 PM
Posted 26 August 2004 - 07:29 AM
My question is: do the texts allude to anyone being a tougher personal combat fighter than him? Maybe Guan Yu? I am by no means an expert on all the generals, and I have no doubt this question has been hashed out countless times before, but I was curious on what the general consensus of the ancient texts was.
Posted 26 August 2004 - 09:38 AM
. That excerpt has sparked some debate, as well, I think, as to whether he took those heads during the battle or after. If I think of any more, I'll post them, but at the moment I have to run...
When the attack on Zhang Xiu was made, [Xu Chu]led the attack; it was calculated that he beheaded ten thousand men.
Posted 26 August 2004 - 02:45 PM
Posted 26 August 2004 - 02:52 PM
Posted 26 August 2004 - 02:53 PM
Posted 26 August 2004 - 06:18 PM
From his SGZ bio ^
Dian Wei battled at the gate preventing the traitors from entering. The troops then entered from the other gates. At the time Dian Wei had about ten or so men; they all fought a desperate battle; each fought like ten men. The traitors numbered many and were coming from front and rear. Dian Wei using his long crescent halberds attacked left and right destroying ten or more. The surrounding area littered with many casualties and dead. Dian Wei received over ten cuts, yet he continued to fight despite lacking troops. Dian Wei held onto two traitors underneath his arms, killing them. The remaining traitors dared not to advance any further. Dian Wei continued attacking the traitors, killing numerous men. His wounds took its toll, he let out a great cry and then died.
As for info on Zhuge Liang and Sima Yi's childhoods, I can give you what it says in Zhuge Liang's Sanguo Zhi bio:
I have yet to find a translated version of Sima Yi's Sanguo Zhi bio, unfortunately... although I know where to find the complete SGZ online, it's in Chinese...
Zhuge Liang had the style Kongming and was from Yangdu in Langya. He was a descendant of Zhuge Feng, who had been the Colonel Director of Retainers during the Han. His father Zhuge Gui, styled Jungong, was Commandery Assistant in the last days of the Han. Zhuge Liang was orphaned early. His uncle Zhuge Xuan was appointed Grand Administrator of Yuzhang by Yuan Shu and took Zhuge Liang and his younger brother Zhuge Jun with him. Then the Han Court reviewed the appointment and sent Zhu Hao to replace Zhuge Xuan. Because Liu Biao was an old acquaintance of his, Zhuge Xuan went to serve him. After his uncle's death, Zhuge Liang tilled the fields, delighting in reciting the Ode to Liangfu. He was eight chi tall and frequently compared himself to Guan Zhong and Le Yi. At the time noone would acknowledge that he had such ability. Only Cui Zhouping of Boling and Xu Shu of Yingchuan, who were friendly with Zhuge Liang, regarded that it was indeed as he said.
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