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#1 whan

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 07:55 PM

Is it true that much part of Japanese language is actually Goguryo(高句麗 one of Korean ancient Kingdoms) language?

It is already well known that Baek-Je(百濟) built Kingdom in Japanese island in 5 C (by older brother of Imperor Mooryung in Baek-je, 462~523) ; that have left a lot of rich historical remains and culture in Japan : buddha's Temples, language, buddhism, spiritual worshiping, traditional costume and thing about king that only King in Japan allowed a tradtion to use spoon and chopsticks both when he had meals : that king uses Silla(新羅) language(as kind of conjuration) to call God of spirit when they have a God-worshiping-ceremony

I recently have heard new story about Japanese that Goguryo language has much more impact on
Japanese language and the traces of the old language remain in Japanese language.

Does that mean that Goguryo people already hdd sailed towards the Japanese island to build new living places there even before Baek-je and Silla got into?

#2 Gubook Janggoon

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Posted 16 November 2005 - 08:06 PM

I'm not going to comment at the moment about anything you just said, but it might be of use to you to note that some think that the languages of Buyeo, Goguryeo, and the language of the Upper-Stratum of Baekje society all spoke related/similar languages.
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Posted 17 November 2005 - 06:49 AM

Is it true that much part of Japanese language is actually Goguryo(高句麗 one of Korean ancient Kingdoms) language?

It appears to be, at the least, a respectable academic theory. Which surprises me a bit, because I didn't think we really knew all that much about the Koguryo language in the first place.

There's a recent book: Koguryo - the Language of Japan's Continental Relatives: An Introduction to the Historical-Comparative Study of the Japanese-Koguryoic Languages, with a Preliminary Description of Archaic Northeastern Middle Chinese by Christopher I. Beckwith (yes, the Tibetan Empire in Central Asia man - a bit of a change of area!) published by Brill in 2004 - see http://www.amazon.co...3891269-9431611 or Brill's own website at http://www.brill.nl/. That would seem to be the place to look for further details.

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Posted 17 November 2005 - 04:48 PM

Is it true that much part of Japanese language is actually Goguryo(高句麗 one of Korean ancient Kingdoms) language?

It is already well known that Baek-Je(百濟) built Kingdom in Japanese island in 5 C (by older brother of Imperor Mooryung in Baek-je, 462~523) ; that have left a lot of rich historical remains and culture in Japan : buddha's Temples, language, buddhism, spiritual worshiping, traditional costume and thing about king that only King in Japan allowed a tradtion to use spoon and chopsticks both when he had meals : that king uses Silla(新羅) language(as kind of conjuration) to call God of spirit when they have a God-worshiping-ceremony

I recently have heard new story about Japanese that Goguryo language has much more impact on
Japanese language and the traces of the old language remain in Japanese language.

Does that mean that Goguryo people already hdd sailed towards the Japanese island to build new living places there even before Baek-je and Silla got into?


The very best Internet source (i.e. free source) on Koguryo-Paekje-Japanese language relation is http://www.corea.it/kudara_1.htm. It's by an Italian professor and he's written the whole thing in English. It is extremely fascinating. What he is doing is studying the ethomology of the Japanese word for Paekje which is "Kudara." Throughout the process gives background information on the Paekje and early Japanese languages and gives clear evidence of Paekje's linguistical link to Koguryo.

Edited by WangKon936, 17 November 2005 - 04:52 PM.


#5 GettingTHEFACTSRITE

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Posted 29 January 2006 - 05:49 PM

Hmmm...there are some similarity in japanese and goguryo language. You can back that with evidence regarding cultural and technological transfer from paekche to the wa kingdom of japan. If you look deeper into the origin of paekche you can see that both paekche and goguryo trace their lineage to buyeo/puyo. Also, if you research about the origin of bekjae. you will find that the founder King Onjo was in fact related to the founder of goguryo which can effectively theorize that the language was closely related.




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