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[Borjigin Ayurbarwada]

The females do were Qi pao.

[General_Zhaoyun]

For males, the Zhong San Zhuang (中山装) worn by Sun Yat Sen and Mao Tze dong is still in fashion today.

[Shadowfax]

For males, the Zhong San Zhuang (中山装) worn by Sun Yat Sen and Mao Tze dong is still in fashion today.

Really? I have never seen anyone wearing it!

[Han_Chinese]

from: http://www.haanen.co...2&skin=0&page=1
一点个人写的英文宣传材料，大家帮着改改错吧！

A forbidden Clothing

As a long standing nationality , we Han people once had the pride of the most loose and elegant clothes... And the style of wide and long sleeves and crossing collarbands had influenced the most nearby countries  till now... But why,  the now so called "China dress" is so different from the Japanese and the Korean ?

The answer is that the Han clothing had once forbiden in the main China . That is at the 1644, when Manchu troops had invaded the main China , they knew that they were only barbarian . So the Manchu ruler on one side made themselves learn the Han culture , and on the other hand they did thire best to kill the national identity of the Han people -- that is actualized by "TI FA YI FU". "TI FA"  means the Han people must cut there hair like the Manchurias which essentially like the pig tails more... And "YI FU" means the Han people must wear clothes as Manchurias ... As a result ,the Manchu controlled the country for nearly 300 years and the Han clothing vanished ...

For a better known of that tragidy , we must comprehend the Han customs. the Han people believe that the body, skin, blood, and hair is gaven by there parents and according to the filial piety, they musen't hurt them... So they never cut hair, and tire there hair together to make a headknop at the age of 20 at a special ceremony which is called "GUAN LI". On the other hand, Han people believe the natural and peace life, so they never drive themselves to fit narrow and tight clothes...They like wide and long sleeves waving in the wend , and crossing collarbands crossing quadrately before thire chest...

All of this --hairknops and loose clothes constructed the "YI GUAN" of the Han people. And so although the clothes vary time by time , but the basic characteristic remained... Remained untill that day the Manchu troops came...

Noticing the beliefs I mentioned above , you can imagine the resistance of the Han people ... That is the Manchu ruler must massacre thousands of people to complete thier policy and conquer ...

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No kidding... It's sad that we have to wear the clothes from the culture of occupiers...

The Qi Pao, which now represents the national clothes for Chinese females, is a lot more drab, and certainly less extravagant than our great Han clothing (no ethnic discrimination intended).

I, too, wish we can revive our culture to the fullest. However, China is in no position at this point in tiem to care about these things. Culture is only an image, and we must secure more basic needs before moving to aesthetics.

[General_Zhaoyun]

Really? I have never seen anyone wearing it! 

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I've seen the Zhong San Zhuang worn in chinese wedding..) Perhaps not in Taiwan, but in Singapore !!

[Borjigin Ayurbarwada]

"The Qi Pao, which now represents the national clothes for Chinese females, is a lot more drab, and certainly less extravagant than our great Han clothing (no ethnic discrimination intended). "

Thats according to you, irrelevant where it originated, its now China's national cloth and it has been for hundreds of years, the so called Han clothing and its rich trouser culture is also copied from the Hu people thousands of years ago, the point is that Qi Pao has became part of Chinese culture and clothing thus its a heritage of Chinese custom that still last till today. Also I like the older version of Qi Pao much better, today the Qi Pao look so much western and tight rather than the more comfortable loose robes.

[TMPikachu]

but it's sexy!

[Kulong]

"The Qi Pao, which now represents the national clothes for Chinese females, is a lot more drab, and certainly less extravagant than our great Han clothing (no ethnic discrimination intended). "

Thats according to you, irrelevant where it originated, its now China's national cloth and it has been for hundreds of years, the so called Han clothing and its rich trouser culture is also copied from the Hu people thousands of years ago, the point is that Qi Pao has became part of Chinese culture and clothing thus its a heritage of Chinese custom that still last till today. Also I like the older version of Qi Pao much better, today the Qi Pao look so much western and tight rather than the more comfortable loose robes.

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As much as I love qipao, especially on Chinese women



I must say although it has become the CHINESE national clothe, it sure isn't the HAN ethnic clothe. There is a major difference.

[Borjigin Ayurbarwada]

To me its just another western cultural imperialism. But if its good I don't have anything to say about it, but to me its for the worse.

[General_Zhaoyun]

Is Qipao manchurian clothing?

[Borjigin Ayurbarwada]

yes

[Borjigin Ayurbarwada]

"I must say although it has become the CHINESE national clothe, it sure isn't the HAN ethnic clothe. There is a major difference. "

No one in china really gives a d****, they simply consider it their national clothing.

[TMPikachu]

To me its just another western cultural imperialism. But if its good I don't have anything to say about it, but to me its for the worse.

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I get an idea of how you feel. It doesn't seem like such a big deal now tho', we're all wearing t-shirts and jeans, around the world.

The only thing that bugs me is... having to go to school dances in ties.
China survived for 4,000 years without ties damnit, I don't need no stinkin' ties.
I had to wear 'formal' clothes for a school picture. I show up in this... I don't know what to call it. It's got a Hong Kong look to it, Jackie Chan wears shirts like these. Buttons down the middle, stiff collar, sleeves flair out, the 'coat tails' also flair out a bit. I had to take it off "sorry, no tie"
God d**** these Eurocentric notions of formality!

[Borjigin Ayurbarwada]

Thats Hong Kong not the PRC