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108 Heros from shui hu zhuan(Outlaws of the Marsh) Japanese oil gallery Rate Topic: -----

#1 User is offline   Lu Bu 

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Posted 15 September 2004 - 03:59 PM

Hey everyone, this is my first post on this forum, I got complete list of galleries of 108 heros from "outlaws of the marsh" of Sung dynsty. and I'm going to share. ^_^

(Though I not sure if this is the right section to post this. if not, then please move this to the proper section, thanks.)



豹子头-林冲

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入云龙-公孙胜

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浪子-燕青

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九纹龙-史进

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大刀-关胜 (to me he looks more GuanYu than anyone else B) )

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This post has been edited by Lu Bu: 15 August 2005 - 02:55 PM



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Posted 15 September 2004 - 04:04 PM

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中箭虎-丁得孙

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紫髯伯-皇甫端

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镇三山-黄信
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云里金刚-宋万
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玉幡竿-孟康
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玉臂将-金大坚
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Posted 15 September 2004 - 04:11 PM

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一枝花-蔡庆
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一丈青-扈三娘
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小遮拦-穆春

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笑面虎-朱福
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小温侯-吕方 (Does he look like Lu Bu by any chance?)
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小尉迟-孙新
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小霸王-周通
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Posted 15 September 2004 - 04:17 PM

and more...

险道神-郁保四
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通臂猿-侯健
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铁扇子-宋清
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铁叫子-乐和
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铁胳膊-蔡福
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铁笛仙-马麟
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跳涧虎-陈达
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Posted 15 September 2004 - 04:24 PM

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双尾蝎-解宝
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天目将-彭玘
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双枪将-董平
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双鞭-呼延灼
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石将军-石勇
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圣水将军-单廷贵
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Posted 15 September 2004 - 09:30 PM

Well,

Guan Sheng was supposed to be a descendant of Guan Yu, the famous general of the Three Kingdoms.

Huyan Zuo was supposed to be a descendant of Huyan Zan, a famous general in early Song dynasty.
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Posted 16 September 2004 - 09:50 AM

Yes, and Lu Fang looks like Lu Bu because he was a great admirer of Lu Bu, and modelled himself after Lu Bu by carrying Lu Bu's trademark weapon. Hence his nickname was "The Little Marquis of Wen" (Xiao Wen Hou), because Lu Bu was enfeoffed as the Marquis of Wen after killing Dong Zhuo.
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Posted 20 September 2004 - 01:43 AM

Hey xan, nice pics, do you have more? It's supposed to be 108. :P
BTW, some of the characters in those drawings look more like Japanese than Chinese.
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Posted 22 September 2004 - 03:04 PM

Uhmmm interesting, thanks for the infromation.

Now updataing galleries.

圣手书生-萧让

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神医-安道全
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神行太保-戴宗
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神算子-蒋敬
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神机军师-朱武

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神火将军-魏定国
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丧门神-鲍旭
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赛仁贵-郭盛 (another Lu Bu's admirer? :o )
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Posted 22 September 2004 - 03:20 PM

青眼虎-李云
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青面兽-杨志
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扑天雕-李应
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拼命三郎-石秀
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霹雳火-秦明
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母夜叉-孙二娘
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母大虫-顾大嫂
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Posted 22 September 2004 - 03:20 PM

摩云金翅-欧鹏
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摸着天-杜迁
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美髯公-朱仝 (???GuanYun II???)
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没遮拦-穆弘
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没羽箭-张清
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没面目-焦挺
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两头蛇-解珍
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毛头星-孔明
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(not over yet, I need a short break)


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Posted 23 September 2004 - 09:37 AM

Thanks xan, keep it going. :D
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Posted 24 September 2004 - 01:15 AM

Regarding Guo Sheng, he got his nickname "Competing with Rengui" (Sai Rengui) as a pun on the name of the famous early Tang general Xue Rengui. Xue Rengui, in Song popular imagery, wore a white robe, wielded a fangtian ji halberd (the same weapon as Lu Bu), and carried a bow on either side of his waist. Guo Sheng, like Xue Rengui, wore a white robe and used a fangtian ji, hence the nickname.

Lu Fang and Guo Sheng were the two rebels among the 108 who wielded the fangtian ji.
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Posted 29 September 2004 - 11:29 PM

Hey all,

The 108 heroes remind me of the X-men. Granted they (mostly) don't have super powers, but it's the similar style of characterization: giving each hero some idiosyncracy.

This novel is my all time favorite, but in certain areas it's also overrated. Think of just the characterization, for example: the novel is often admired for its characterization, and rightly it should be, as few authors have the ability to create so many diverse characters, and even characters of the same type (like Li Gui and Lu Chi Shin) can be easily distinguished (Li Gui is completely simple and straight forward, while Lu Chi Shin has a layer of sophistication.) But close examination shows that only about 30 (still a lot) of the heroes and some other non-heroes are so detailed -- the rest of the 108 heroes, and many of the characters outside of them are barely names with a short biography, an interesting feature, some special skill, or even just an interesting weapon! Lu Fong and Guo Sheng (incidentally the grandfather of Guo Jin of Jin Yung's novels) are such characters: seriously, aside from their clothes and their weapons, we can't really distinguish them from others. Some are even more difficult: Sung Wan and Du Chien, for example, are two of the helping founders of the Liang Shan Po lair, but we really don't know jacks about them!

Some suggested that the author tried too much when trying to keep to the number 108, when he could've made less heroes but make them all memorable. I'd nonetheless differ from this criticism: there's something special about the number 108, both in terms of its metaphysical meaning and its relation to the Shui Hu Chuan stories. I think, if I'm not mistaken, prior to the writing of the novel the legends gradually grew to the number of the 108 heroes. So having this number is a way of celebrating the diverse tales that are formed about them.

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Posted 30 September 2004 - 03:15 PM

Very good Xan very good thank you so much for those pictures!
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