I know North Korea is referred to as Xiaosen (Josun) and South Korea as Han Guo (Hangook)...but what are Koreans referred to collectively as an ethnicity in China? An example would be like the Chinese are called the Han....
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, Sep 25 2004 10:54 PM
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Posted 25 September 2004 - 10:54 PM
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 01:38 AM
They are called Chaoxian, it is simply just the Chinese version of Chosun.
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 03:23 PM
Han is just part of Chinese. More correctly it should be native.
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 03:27 PM
Karakhan, on Sep 26 2004, 06:38 AM, said:
They are called Chaoxian, it is simply just the Chinese version of Chosun.
Kk thanks for the information!
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Posted 26 September 2004 - 11:40 PM
The Chaoxian (朝鲜) people (chinese version for "Chosan") in China originated from the 17th century migration from Korea to Manchuria, due to trade and economic reasons. Also, a large portion of Korean dwelled in NorthEast China during the Korean war period, whereby they were forced to leave their homeland to escape from the war.
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Posted 27 September 2004 - 04:14 AM
General_Zhaoyun, on Sep 27 2004, 04:40 AM, said:
The Chaoxian (朝鲜) people (chinese version for "Chosan") in China originated from the 17th century migration from Korea to Manchuria, due to trade and economic reasons. Also, a large portion of Korean dwelled in NorthEast China during the Korean war period, whereby they were forced to leave their homeland to escape from the war.
Actually, there have been Koreans in the area now known as the Northeast far longer than that. There were Koreans in the kingdom of Kogyryo that occupied much of Manchuria. Also, the former kingdom of Bohai also had large number of Koreans in what is now Liaoning Province.
As for the countries of the Korean Peninsula (朝鲜半島), South Korea is known as 南韓 (Nanhan) and North Korea is known as 北韓 (Beihan).
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Posted 27 September 2004 - 08:44 AM
Ludahai, on Sep 27 2004, 04:14 AM, said:
As for the countries of the Korean Peninsula (朝鲜半島), South Korea is known as 南韓 (Nanhan) and North Korea is known as 北韓 (Beihan).
In mainland China, South Korea is simply 韓國 Hanguo (sometimes refered to as 南韓 Nanhan), and North Korea is 朝鮮 Chaoxian.
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 02:04 AM
Kulong, on Sep 27 2004, 01:44 PM, said:
That's only in Taiwan.
In mainland China, South Korea is simply 韓國 Hanguo (sometimes refered to as 南韓 Nanhan), and North Korea is 朝鮮 Chaoxian.
In mainland China, South Korea is simply 韓國 Hanguo (sometimes refered to as 南韓 Nanhan), and North Korea is 朝鮮 Chaoxian.
Thank you for the clarification. I checked a couple of Chinese maps of Korea and that is indeed the case. The names in Taiwan and China for the two countries are different. New Zealand is another country where the names are different BTW.
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 02:51 AM
Weird, we refer South Korea as Chaoxian(Chosun), and North Korea, Gao Li(Kogryo). I am Cantonese.
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 01:14 PM
That's very interesting...why would North Korea be called Gaoli?
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 01:47 PM
I'm not sure, Maybe I'm wrong, but we do call either the North or SOuth Gao Li, pronounced Go Lai Guo in Cantonese. Which basically means Korygo, a powerful kingdom in Korea. I like using Cantonese sometimes, it really has ancient roots and pronounciations.
Hanguk in Cantonese, Hongok. I'm not very good at Korean History, did Chosun come from Korygo as a Dynasty?
Hanguk in Cantonese, Hongok. I'm not very good at Korean History, did Chosun come from Korygo as a Dynasty?
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Posted 02 October 2004 - 04:36 PM
Yes, Yi Songgye lead a coup and toppled the Koryo dyansty and set up his own Josun...I always thought that the north would be referred to as Chaoxian, as that is what they call their country...
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Posted 03 October 2004 - 10:46 AM
I'm Cantonese. We always refer to S. Korea as 南韓 Namhon or 韓國and N. Korea as Bakhon 北韓.
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Posted 04 October 2004 - 05:45 AM
Emperor, on Oct 3 2004, 03:46 PM, said:
I'm Cantonese. We always refer to S. Korea as 南韓 Namhon or 韓國and N. Korea as Bakhon 北韓.
Same in Taiwan, though in Mandarin and Taiwanese, not Cantonese, of course.
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Posted 04 October 2004 - 10:55 PM
Very interesting...so I guess Koreans as a whole are Chaoxian Ren...
In Korea another name for north korea and south korea, repectively, are Bookhan and Namhan...so yea...
South Koreans call their country Dae Han Min Vietnamese...or just Han Vietnamese for short...
thanks for the info guys very informative...
New question... are the Japanese referred to as Wo?
In Korea another name for north korea and south korea, repectively, are Bookhan and Namhan...so yea...
South Koreans call their country Dae Han Min Vietnamese...or just Han Vietnamese for short...
thanks for the info guys very informative...
New question... are the Japanese referred to as Wo?
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