Anyone here can help me with San Zi Jing ? So far what I knew is that it is written or compiled by Wang Yinglin 王应麟 (1223 CE – 1296 CE). Any more details on this ? Like who is he, his background, and San Zi Jing compilation process.
The second matter is there are many versions of San Zi Jing. I know that the history section has been revised and edited through the course history.Differences also occurs in other section (political reasons ?). In Taiwan(??? using fan ti) version, there is no geographical phrases about mainland rivers, mountains, the equator. The history section also differs especially about Yuan and Qing dynasty.
Several example of phrases not found in fan ti version:
about tian gan and di zhi
十 干 者， 甲 至 癸。 十 二 支， 子 至 亥。
shí gān zhě jiǎ zhì guǐ shí èr zhī zǐ zhì hài
about longitude (???) and equatorial
曰 黃 道， 日 所 躔。 曰 赤 道， 當 中 權。
yuē huáng dào rì suǒ chán yuē chì dào dāng zhōng quán
about climate and mainland geo position
赤 道 下， 溫 暖 极。 我 中 華， 在 東 北。
chì dào xià wēn nuǎn jí wǒ zhōng huá zài dōng běi
main rivers in mainland
曰 江 河， 曰 淮 濟。 此 四 瀆， 水 之 紀。
yuē jiāng hé yuē huái jì cǐ sì dú shuǐ zhī jì
main mountains in mainland
曰 岱 華， 嵩 恒 衡。 此 五 岳， 山 之 名。
yuē dài huá sōng héng héng cǐ wǔ yuè shān zhī míng
about yuan dynasty achievement
輿 圖 廣， 超 前 代。 九 十 年， 國 作 廢。
yú tú guǎng chāo qián dài jiǔ shí nián guó zuò fèi
about qing dynasty
由 康 雍， 歷 乾 嘉。 民 安 富， 治 績 誇。
yóu kāng yōng lì qián jiā mín ān fù zhì jī kuā
道 咸 間， 變 亂 起。 始 英 法， 擾 都 鄙。
dào xián jiān biàn luàn qǐ shǐ yīng fǎ rǎo dū bǐ
同 光 後， 宣 統 弱。 傳 九 帝， 滿 業 沒。
tóng guāng hòu xuān tǒng ruò chuán jiǔ dì mǎn yè mò
about how to read history books
史 雖 繁， 讀 有 次。 史 記 一， 漢 書 二。
shǐ suī fán dú yǒu cì shǐ jì yī hàn shū èr
后 漢 三， 國 志 四。 兼 證 經， 參 通 鑒。
hòu hàn sān guó zhì sì jiān zhèng jīng cān tōng jiàn
Anyone ever do some research about the many versions of San Zi Jing ? It is political ?
San Zi Jing History, Additions & Many Versions ?
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Hendri Irawan Yu Yongde
, Nov 13 2006 02:59 AM
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Posted 13 November 2006 - 02:59 AM
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Posted 13 November 2006 - 07:44 AM
There is already a discussion on Sanzi Jing (3 words classic) at
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=5688
The Sanzi Jing is basically written by Wang Yingling 王应麟 of Song Dynasty. It uses rthyming technique and 3 words to form a sentence, 4 sentences as a group just like a poem. When one read it out loud, it's just like singing and is useful for teaching kids. Its content is of Confucianism nature and had for generations been a teaching material for children.
From http://www.shtvu.edu...page/wj6-14.htm
Wang Yingling (1223-1296). He's a Scholar in Southern Song dynasty. His style name is "Bo Hou 伯厚" and lived in Jun Yi (today's Kaifeng in Henan province). Later he migrated to Qin Yuan (today's Yin county in Zhejiang province). Later he became Jinshi (exam), and became Shangshu in the ministry of Rite. He was well-versed in all knowledges including hundred schools of thoughts and history, astrology, geography etc, His other written work besides the Sanzi Jing are Tuanxue Jiwen《困学纪闻》、Yuhai《玉海》、Shikao《诗考》、Shidi Likao《诗地理考》、Hanyi Wenzi Kaozheng《汉艺文志考证》、Yutang Leigao《玉堂类稿》、Shenning Ji《深宁集》.
There is also a detail chinese article about him at
http://www.nb7000.ne...mp;uptheme=true
http://www.chinahist...?showtopic=5688
The Sanzi Jing is basically written by Wang Yingling 王应麟 of Song Dynasty. It uses rthyming technique and 3 words to form a sentence, 4 sentences as a group just like a poem. When one read it out loud, it's just like singing and is useful for teaching kids. Its content is of Confucianism nature and had for generations been a teaching material for children.
Anyone here can help me with San Zi Jing ? So far what I knew is that it is written or compiled by Wang Yinglin 王应麟 (1223 CE – 1296 CE). Any more details on this ? Like who is he, his background, and San Zi Jing compilation process.
From http://www.shtvu.edu...page/wj6-14.htm
Wang Yingling (1223-1296). He's a Scholar in Southern Song dynasty. His style name is "Bo Hou 伯厚" and lived in Jun Yi (today's Kaifeng in Henan province). Later he migrated to Qin Yuan (today's Yin county in Zhejiang province). Later he became Jinshi (exam), and became Shangshu in the ministry of Rite. He was well-versed in all knowledges including hundred schools of thoughts and history, astrology, geography etc, His other written work besides the Sanzi Jing are Tuanxue Jiwen《困学纪闻》、Yuhai《玉海》、Shikao《诗考》、Shidi Likao《诗地理考》、Hanyi Wenzi Kaozheng《汉艺文志考证》、Yutang Leigao《玉堂类稿》、Shenning Ji《深宁集》.
There is also a detail chinese article about him at
http://www.nb7000.ne...mp;uptheme=true
"夫君子之行：靜以修身，儉以養德；非淡泊無以明志，非寧靜無以致遠。" - 諸葛亮
One should seek serenity to cultivate the body, thriftiness to cultivate the morals. If you are not simple and frugal, your ambition will not sparkle. If you are not calm and cool, you will not reach far. - Zhugeliang
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Posted 13 November 2006 - 07:50 AM
The second matter is there are many versions of San Zi Jing. I know that the history section has been revised and edited through the course history.Differences also occurs in other section (political reasons ?). In Taiwan(??? using fan ti) version, there is no geographical phrases about mainland rivers, mountains, the equator. The history section also differs especially about Yuan and Qing dynasty.
Several example of phrases not found in fan ti version:
about tian gan and di zhi
十 干 者， 甲 至 癸。 十 二 支， 子 至 亥。
shí gān zhě jiǎ zhì guǐ shí èr zhī zǐ zhì hài
about longitude (???) and equatorial
曰 黃 道， 日 所 躔。 曰 赤 道， 當 中 權。
yuē huáng dào rì suǒ chán yuē chì dào dāng zhōng quán
about climate and mainland geo position
赤 道 下， 溫 暖 极。 我 中 華， 在 東 北。
chì dào xià wēn nuǎn jí wǒ zhōng huá zài dōng běi
main rivers in mainland
曰 江 河， 曰 淮 濟。 此 四 瀆， 水 之 紀。
yuē jiāng hé yuē huái jì cǐ sì dú shuǐ zhī jì
main mountains in mainland
曰 岱 華， 嵩 恒 衡。 此 五 岳， 山 之 名。
yuē dài huá sōng héng héng cǐ wǔ yuè shān zhī míng
about yuan dynasty achievement
輿 圖 廣， 超 前 代。 九 十 年， 國 作 廢。
yú tú guǎng chāo qián dài jiǔ shí nián guó zuò fèi
about qing dynasty
由 康 雍， 歷 乾 嘉。 民 安 富， 治 績 誇。
yóu kāng yōng lì qián jiā mín ān fù zhì jī kuā
道 咸 間， 變 亂 起。 始 英 法， 擾 都 鄙。
dào xián jiān biàn luàn qǐ shǐ yīng fǎ rǎo dū bǐ
同 光 後， 宣 統 弱。 傳 九 帝， 滿 業 沒。
tóng guāng hòu xuān tǒng ruò chuán jiǔ dì mǎn yè mò
about how to read history books
史 雖 繁， 讀 有 次。 史 記 一， 漢 書 二。
shǐ suī fán dú yǒu cì shǐ jì yī hàn shū èr
后 漢 三， 國 志 四。 兼 證 經， 參 通 鑒。
hòu hàn sān guó zhì sì jiān zhèng jīng cān tōng jiàn
Anyone ever do some research about the many versions of San Zi Jing ? It is political ?
I don't think it's anything to do with politics. The version in Taiwan is probably originated from the one edited
by scholar Zhang Taiyan 章太炎〈Style Name: Bin Ling 炳麟) during late Qing/early ROC period.
In PRC, there is a new version called New 3 Word Classics《新三字经》 . I haven't actually read it.
Anyway, there is a chinese article at http://www.dfg.cn/gb...6-sanzijing.htm which explains about the different version throughout history.
"夫君子之行：靜以修身，儉以養德；非淡泊無以明志，非寧靜無以致遠。" - 諸葛亮
One should seek serenity to cultivate the body, thriftiness to cultivate the morals. If you are not simple and frugal, your ambition will not sparkle. If you are not calm and cool, you will not reach far. - Zhugeliang
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Posted 14 November 2006 - 09:30 PM
GZ,
I found a guy on the net claiming that his website is the only original page about Wang Yinglin. Here is the link
http://home.arcor.de/csoffel/wyl.htm
And he said that Wang Yinglin is not the author of San Zi Jing, contrary to common belief (including me). This is what he said
"Wang Yinglin is often mistakenly taken as the author of the Classic of the Three characters (Sanzi jing [三字經]). But there can be given some convincing arguments that he is not the author of this work still very common in modern China (the only problem is: many people don't know about these arguments! Maybe I should write a paper on it someday...) "
How reliable is his arguments ? Since I couldn't find others that support his idea.
I found a guy on the net claiming that his website is the only original page about Wang Yinglin. Here is the link
http://home.arcor.de/csoffel/wyl.htm
And he said that Wang Yinglin is not the author of San Zi Jing, contrary to common belief (including me). This is what he said
"Wang Yinglin is often mistakenly taken as the author of the Classic of the Three characters (Sanzi jing [三字經]). But there can be given some convincing arguments that he is not the author of this work still very common in modern China (the only problem is: many people don't know about these arguments! Maybe I should write a paper on it someday...) "
How reliable is his arguments ? Since I couldn't find others that support his idea.
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