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Poll: Which do you consider to be the most Decisive Battle or Campaign? (36 member(s) have cast votes)

Which do you consider to be the most Decisive Battle or Campaign?

  1. Sun Ce's conquest of Jiangdong, 196 AD (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  2. Huainan (Cao Cao defeats Yuan Shu), 197 AD (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. Xiapi (Cao Cao defeats Lu Bu), 198 AD (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Guandu, 200-201 AD (13 votes [36.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.11%

  5. Chibi, 208 AD (13 votes [36.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.11%

  6. Liu Bei's invasion of Sichuan, 211-214 AD (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Wu invasion of Jingzhou, 219 AD (2 votes [5.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.56%

  8. Xiaoting/Yiling (Liu Bei's failed invasion of Wu), 221-222 AD (5 votes [13.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.89%

  9. Zhuge Liang's suppression of the Yunnan rebellions, 225 AD (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. Zhuge Liang's northern expeditions, 227- 234 AD (3 votes [8.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  11. Deng Ai's invasion of Sichuan, 263 AD (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  12. Jin invasion of Wu, 280 AD (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 11 June 2004 - 12:16 PM

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There's something wrong with the poll settings, I've asked Liu Ce to look into it. In the meantime, you can discuss the question without voting first.


I fixed the poll but this time you can only vote once. So vote for what battle you thought was the most Decisive.
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Posted 12 June 2004 - 12:50 AM

Definitely the Battle of Chibi..without it, Cao Cao would have unified China.
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Posted 12 June 2004 - 03:31 AM

Wu's invasion of Jingzhou and the killing of Guan Yu. Completly destroyed any hope of a Shu victory against Wei.
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Posted 12 June 2004 - 04:55 PM

I considered Chibi, but if Cao Cao had not won at Guandu, there would probably never have been a battle at Chibi. And in my opinion, Chibi didn't really change anything in the long run, it only prolonged the inevitable. And yes I know the Sima's really won in the end, not Cao Cao, but my point is the same - Shu and Wu still lost.

At Guandu, Cao Cao turned the tide and opened the door for conquering the north, which gave him a vast power-base. It's long-term repercussions were the reason I voted for it.
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Posted 12 June 2004 - 08:50 PM

Wu, due to its lack of military expirience after Sun Ce's death, didn't have a chance. Shu had one chance, to attack Wei from Yingzhou and Jing Zhou. This chance was spoiled by Wu when it invaded Jing Zhou.
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Posted 14 June 2004 - 07:19 AM

Well, we're currently tied between Guandu and Chibi, which is no surprise at all. Anyone care to break the tie?
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Posted 14 June 2004 - 02:01 PM

If i may say something, anyone who read your post already voted
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Posted 14 June 2004 - 09:47 PM

Well, I do hope we have more than seven active members on this forum ;)
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Posted 14 June 2004 - 10:42 PM

ITs closer to 6
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 03:55 AM

Have Sephodwyrm, Thirdgumi and Han Wudi voted yet? :huh:
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 06:35 AM

Why not just keep the poll open indefinitely? This forum is still new; there will be more people joining in the months/years ahead, and as they join they can vote.

Just a suggestion. :rolleyes:
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Posted 15 June 2004 - 07:57 AM

Yeah.. don't lock it..just leave it and people will vote.
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Posted 16 June 2004 - 04:21 AM

How many months later?
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Posted 10 September 2004 - 07:33 AM

I'm going to have to say that Guan Du was the most decisive battle, for reasons allready stated.

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Posted 20 December 2004 - 09:45 PM

Guandu was indeed a very brilliant battle. It was said that Cao Cao 's smaller army of 70,000 defeated 700,000 troops by Yuan Shao
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