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Posted 03 December 2004 - 03:38 AM

Bamboos have always been writing material for China before the advent paper. They were tied up together to form the "Zhu Jian" 竹笺, which became the books of ancient times.

Although paper was invented (supposingly by Cai Lun) during the eastern Han dynasty, many of the documents during eastern han dynasty were still using Bamboos.

When did paper fully replace bamboo in China? During 3 kingdom periods?
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Posted 05 December 2004 - 01:01 AM

General_Zhaoyun, on Dec 3 2004, 04:38 AM, said:

Bamboos have always been writing material for China before the advent paper. They were tied up together to form the "Zhu Jian" 竹笺, which became the books of ancient times.

Although paper was invented (supposingly by Cai Lun) during the eastern Han dynasty, many of the documents during eastern han dynasty were still using Bamboos.

When did paper fully replace bamboo in China? During 3 kingdom periods?


No paper was not wide spread until the Jin dynasty. There is a saying originated from Jinsu: "Luoyang zi gui" used to describe the popularity of Zuo Si's "San Du Fu" that everyone was buying paper so they can make a copy of it. So we can tell that paper was the popular writting material by that time.
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Posted 05 December 2004 - 06:32 AM

General_Zhaoyun, on Dec 3 2004, 04:38 PM, said:

Although paper was invented (supposingly by Cai Lun) during the eastern Han dynasty, many of the documents during eastern han dynasty were still using Bamboos.


In my text book it is said what Cai Lun(蔡伦, a famous eunuch) had done was the technical improvement of paper making. Cai Lun found a method to produce paper from straw and hemp and something alike, instead of the expensive materials which had been used to make paper before. As for who was the inventer of paper, nobody has left us materials to mention him/her.
Factually in Later Han period, after Cai Lun's work, paper became popular day by day. Though I don't have exact data, I can tell that at least in Later Han paper had taken part of bamboo strips(竹简).

Koolasuchus, on Dec 5 2004, 02:01 PM, said:

"Luoyang zi gui" used to describe the popularity of Zuo Si's "San Du Fu" that everyone was buying paper so they can make a copy of it.  So we can tell that paper was the popular writting material by that time.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 10:28 AM

View PostGeneral_Zhaoyun, on Dec 3 2004, 02:38 AM, said:

They were tied up together to form the "Zhu Jian" 竹笺, which became the books of ancient times.


Do you have pics of these books? Were the pages glued or sewn together or what?
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 03:09 AM

The people who made the improvement of Papermaking China is Cai Lun Eastern Han Dynasty (62-121). Cai Lun who is from Guiyang (today’s Hu Nan Bin Zhou), once took charge of Queen's side order. He used the bark, pocked head, rag, net, after a series of process like setbacks, disturb, search and dry, copied, bake, resulting in the paper. When 17 years Yong Yuan (105), dedicated to He Emperor. He said the paper called "Cai paper." But in the Eastern Han, the Three Kingdoms Period, the paper is not widely used, people are still writing material mainly bamboo slips and silk Sector. The Chin Dynasty, Papermaking reached the Yangtze River valley, where there are abundant raw materials recycled paper, they also produce a better paper. before being widely. Jin were rampant copying books is due to the popularity of paper.more details on http://www.tvsc.cn/z...php?newsid=3355
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Posted 11 February 2007 - 03:29 PM

Hello Scarlett,

I merged your post with an older, similar topic.

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