When I visited Guangzhou some couple years ago, I asked my relative (they were our guides). They just said it no longer existed and we should not ask or it could cause trouble.
It is sad that a major site where modern China was born no longer exists. Many of China's modern leaders graduated from there. It is not a KMT or CCP thing. Chinese youth should have monuments and sites to remember their past.
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What happened to Whampoa military academy?
#2
Posted 18 May 2005 - 03:21 AM
Zhou Enlai was actually a political commissar at Whampoa in the early 1920s. One great irony is that Whampoa was actually established with much funding from the Soviet Union, at a time when the Soviets were supporting Sun Yat-sen.
The dead have passed beyond our power to honour or dishonour them, but not beyond our ability to try and understand.
#3
Posted 18 May 2005 - 05:13 AM
I wonder why it would cause trouble. Many of the CCP cadres were students from Whampoa too, besides important pioneers being instructors there.
I thought this was one institution which would find claimants on both sides of the Taiwan Straits.
Unfortunately, Taiwan's Chinese Military Academy (http://www.cma.edu.tw/) which traced its origins to Whampoa Military Academy changed the name, while it seemed to disappear in PRC.
Just found a news article that announced the site Huangpu District of Guangzhou City, in south China's Guangdong Province, would become a tourist attraction.
http://www.china.com...lture/38650.htm
I thought this was one institution which would find claimants on both sides of the Taiwan Straits.
Unfortunately, Taiwan's Chinese Military Academy (http://www.cma.edu.tw/) which traced its origins to Whampoa Military Academy changed the name, while it seemed to disappear in PRC.
Just found a news article that announced the site Huangpu District of Guangzhou City, in south China's Guangdong Province, would become a tourist attraction.
http://www.china.com...lture/38650.htm
#4
Posted 19 May 2005 - 07:01 PM
a picture of the HuangPu military academy can be found here I think:
http://www.china-def...aval/naval.html
See the HuangPu Shipyard link.
http://www.china-def...aval/naval.html
See the HuangPu Shipyard link.
#5
Posted 24 May 2005 - 10:39 PM
Actually both the nationalist army and the chinese communist army were trained at Whampoa Military Academy.
Chiang Kai Shek used to be principal of Whampoa military academy. In PRC, Whampoa Military Academy doesn't exist anymore.
Currently, the Whampoa Military Academy exists in Taiwan as "Chinese Military Academy", which was established in 1950 and modelled after the famous "United States Military Academy at West Point, N.Y (美国西点军校)."
Here are some info about this military academy from Wikipedia http://www.answers.c...ilitary-academy
See also Chinese Military Academy
Below is an emblem of Chinese Military Academy.
Chiang Kai Shek used to be principal of Whampoa military academy. In PRC, Whampoa Military Academy doesn't exist anymore.
Currently, the Whampoa Military Academy exists in Taiwan as "Chinese Military Academy", which was established in 1950 and modelled after the famous "United States Military Academy at West Point, N.Y (美国西点军校)."
Here are some info about this military academy from Wikipedia http://www.answers.c...ilitary-academy
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The Nationalist Party of China Army Officer Academy (中國國民黨陸軍軍官學校), commonly known as the Whampoa Military Academy (黃埔軍校, pinyin huáng pŭ jūn xiŕo), was a military academy in China that produced many prestigious commanders who fought in the Sino-Japanese War and Chinese Civil War. It was founded in 1924 to train military commanders for the National Revolutionary Army that was set to defeat the northern warlords in the Northern Expedition. It currently exists in Taiwan as the Chinese Military Academy.
The academy was founded on June 16, 1924 at Chengzhou Island offshore from the Whampoa dock in Guangzhou, thus earning its common name. During the inaugural ceremonies, Sun Yat-sen delivered a speech that was later to become of the lyrics of the ROC's national Anthem.
The Whampoa Military Academy was comprised of six departments: political, instruction, training, management, medic and supplies. The academy concentrated the revolutionary military talents at the time. Chiang Kai-shek was appointed the first principal of the academy. Zhou Enlai, Hu Han-min, and Wang Ching-wei were among the instructors in the political department, and He Yingqin and Ye Jianying were once military instructors. Legendary graduates included Communist commanders Lin Biao, Peng Dehuai, and Xu Xiangqian and Nationalist commanders Chen Cheng, Du Yuming, and Hu Zongnan. The Whampoa Academy initially had many instructors from the Soviet Union; those instructors left, however, after Chiang Kai-shek's break with the Communist Party of China (CPC) during the Northern Expedition. The academy was moved to the newly established capital in Nanjing after the defeat of the warlords in 1928. The academy moved again to Chengdu during the Japanese invasion.
In 1950, after the Communist victory on mainland China and the establishment of the People's Republic of China, the academy was re-established Fengshan, Kaohsiung County, Taiwan Province as the Chinese Military Academy (陸軍官校).
The motto of the academy "Camaraderie" (親愛精誠, literally 'Fraternity, Dexterity, Sincerity') was proclaimed by Sun Yat-sen at the opening ceremonies.
The academy was founded on June 16, 1924 at Chengzhou Island offshore from the Whampoa dock in Guangzhou, thus earning its common name. During the inaugural ceremonies, Sun Yat-sen delivered a speech that was later to become of the lyrics of the ROC's national Anthem.
The Whampoa Military Academy was comprised of six departments: political, instruction, training, management, medic and supplies. The academy concentrated the revolutionary military talents at the time. Chiang Kai-shek was appointed the first principal of the academy. Zhou Enlai, Hu Han-min, and Wang Ching-wei were among the instructors in the political department, and He Yingqin and Ye Jianying were once military instructors. Legendary graduates included Communist commanders Lin Biao, Peng Dehuai, and Xu Xiangqian and Nationalist commanders Chen Cheng, Du Yuming, and Hu Zongnan. The Whampoa Academy initially had many instructors from the Soviet Union; those instructors left, however, after Chiang Kai-shek's break with the Communist Party of China (CPC) during the Northern Expedition. The academy was moved to the newly established capital in Nanjing after the defeat of the warlords in 1928. The academy moved again to Chengdu during the Japanese invasion.
In 1950, after the Communist victory on mainland China and the establishment of the People's Republic of China, the academy was re-established Fengshan, Kaohsiung County, Taiwan Province as the Chinese Military Academy (陸軍官校).
The motto of the academy "Camaraderie" (親愛精誠, literally 'Fraternity, Dexterity, Sincerity') was proclaimed by Sun Yat-sen at the opening ceremonies.
See also Chinese Military Academy
Below is an emblem of Chinese Military Academy.


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#6
Posted 24 July 2005 - 09:38 PM
Last session was 23rd. It was sold to people's liberation army by the schoolmaster.
Gao Wenjun, a KMT Whampoa 23rd Session cadet who was sold by academy principal to PLA together with 3000 classmates and later was forced into service in PVA in Korea, recalled his war experiences and his unrelenting struggles for the right to be repatriated to Taiwan in "Recollections Of Korean War" (Shengzhi Culture Enterprise Publishing House, http://www.ycrc.com.tw, Taipei, Taiwan, July 2000).
Gao Wenjun, a KMT Whampoa 23rd Session cadet who was sold by academy principal to PLA together with 3000 classmates and later was forced into service in PVA in Korea, recalled his war experiences and his unrelenting struggles for the right to be repatriated to Taiwan in "Recollections Of Korean War" (Shengzhi Culture Enterprise Publishing House, http://www.ycrc.com.tw, Taipei, Taiwan, July 2000).
#7
Posted 24 July 2005 - 10:00 PM
kaixin, on May 18 2005, 03:52 PM, said:
When I visited Guangzhou some couple years ago, I asked my relative (they were our guides). They just said it no longer existed and we should not ask or it could cause trouble.
It is sad that a major site where modern China was born no longer exists. Many of China's modern leaders graduated from there. It is not a KMT or CCP thing. Chinese youth should have monuments and sites to remember their past.

It is sad that a major site where modern China was born no longer exists. Many of China's modern leaders graduated from there. It is not a KMT or CCP thing. Chinese youth should have monuments and sites to remember their past.

Your relatives are just paranoid. Huangpu Academy is now a tourist site. Maybe you can visit the next time you go.
Here's a clip from a tourist agency:
黄埔军校旧址位于黄埔区长洲岛,为全国重点文物保护单位。
黄埔军校是第一次国共合作时期,孙中山在中国共产党和苏联帮助下,为培养军事干部于1924年6月创办的新型陆军军官学校。军校创办后,孙中山亲自兼任学校总理,蒋介石任校长,廖仲恺任党代表,中国共产党人周恩来、熊雄先后任政治部主任。军校采用军事与政治并重、理论与实践结合的教育方针,培养了大批将才。军校学生曾参加了东征、南征以及北伐战争,为中国革命事业作出了重大的贡献。 抗日战争时期,黄埔军校旧址曾被炸毁,而后几经沧桑,面貌改变很大。1964年做了一次较大的修缮,基本恢复了原貌。1984年建立黄埔军校旧址纪念馆,现在军校旧址的纪念建筑有军校正门、中山纪念碑、中山故居、俱乐部、游泳池及东征烈士墓等。
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