[zuwairi]

Evolution Western armor:


Evolution Chinese Armor:


Middle east armor (mainly chain mail)




Japanese Armor

[Liang Jieming]

very nice

[Tyler]

Very nice can someone give me the order of chinese armor by dates I can't read chinese. And do you have any more pircutes showing how different areas such as japan changed through time?

[zuwairi]

Lemellar Armor (Monggol, Tibet...)



Turk Mail


Transitional armor


Full plate armor


Link for japanese armor history
http://www.sengokuda...atchu.ch01.html
or
http://www.iz2.or.jp/english/index.htm -- go to custume history in Japan

[TMPikachu]

The book 'Oriental Armour' (armour, with a 'u') would be very useful to anyone looking into the developement of armor outside of Europe. It's a good summary and goes into a fair amount of detail.

mountain pattern scale is considered just lamellar though.

[caocao74]

Liu Ce, on May 29 2005, 04:21 AM, said:

Very nice can someone give me the order of chinese armor by dates I can't read chinese. And do you have any more pircutes showing how different areas such as japan changed through time?

Regarding Japan, this link may be of assistance;
http://www.sengokuda...chu/katchu.html

[Yun]

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Very nice can someone give me the order of chinese armor by dates I can't read chinese.

1st two on top row: Qin

2nd two on top row: Han

1st two on bottom row: Age of Fragmentation

3rd on bottom row: Sui

4th on bottom row: Tang

[Wujiang]

Actaully, the second to the left on the top row was a Han era armour

[Altaica Militarica]

zuwairi, on May 28 2005, 12:37 AM, said:

Middle east armor (mainly chain mail)

The first one is the Russian armour (very old replica of the end of XIX century based upon the collection of Kremlin Armoury).

The second set of man & horse armour could be Russian as well as Ottoman one as the helmets of that type were popular in Russia in XVI century (some of them are stored in State Historical Museum, Moscow).

Then you have posted 2 pics regarding lamellar armour. THe first one is definetly Tibetan as that set was taken in action by Colonel F. Younghusband in Tibet during his Tibetan expedition 1902-1903.

The second one is the rconstruction of the Mongol armour performed by Leonid A. Bobrov (Novosibirsk) or Michael V. Gorelik (Moscow).

Best regards,

Alexey.

[zuwairi]

Japanese Armor Timeline - Excerpt from http://www.iz2.or.jp/english/index.htm --


Nara Era (710-794)


The Heian Period (795-1192)

Oyoroi armor

The Kamakura Period (1186-1333)

domaru, haramaki and gusoku armor

Edo Period (1600~1868)

Improve gusoku armor

[caocao74]

zuwairi, on May 30 2005, 05:36 PM, said:

Japanese Armor Timeline -  Excerpt from http://www.iz2.or.jp/english/index.htm --
Nara Era (710-794)
 

Those suits of armour date back to the 4th to 6th Century, the so-called Kofun and Asuka Periods.

[Yun]

Is the first suit a tanko, and the second a keiko?

[TMPikachu]

I've heard the Tanko design was abandoned after influence by mainland armor. So when Japan started using that keiko armor, Korea and china were using it at that time, yeah?

[Gubook Janggoon]

TMPikachu, on May 31 2005, 03:26 PM, said:

I've heard the Tanko design was abandoned after influence by mainland armor. So when Japan started using that keiko armor, Korea and china were using it at that time, yeah?

I've just saw a video where they showed a lot of Gayan armor.

A lot of it was very Tanko and Keiko-esque. So yes.

Here are some videos about Gayan/ rest of Korea armor.

3 kingdoms period stuff.


http://211.252.141.1...S20040324_e.wmv
http://211.252.141.1...S20040403_e.wmv

[TMPikachu]

Would it be plausible to say that Japan eventually had more 'advanced' armor designs than the mainland with

Gusuko armor? How does that compare against the brigandine worn by the Ming/Qing?

I also think of European full plate armor as the most 'advanced' form. It seems to me that Chinese armor just kinda stopped advancing with the Ming.