[Master Jiang KI]

Xiahou Ba seemed to be overshadowed by Jiang Wei in the novel. Does anybody have info on him before the late campaighns he and Jiang Wei led against WEI?

[poirot]

Xia Hou Ba was actually related to the royal house of the Shu Han through marriage. Zhang Fei's wife was a member of the Xia Hou family. When Zhang Fei's daughter became the Empress of Shu Han through her marriage with Liu Chan, the House of Liu and the House of Xia Hou, ironically, became family. I believe Zhang Fei's wife was a cousin of Xia Hou Ba and that makes Xia Hou Ba the distant uncle of the Empress of Shu Han. It is little wonder that despite the death of his father Xia Hou Yuan in the hands of Huang Zhong, Xia Hou Ba decided to surrender to the Shu Han after the coup planned by Sima Yi. XIAHOU BA AND THE EMPEROR OF SHU HAN WERE RELATIVES!

[sima old bandit]

Translated by SHZLD

SGZ Biography of Xiahou Ba

(This is a sub-biography of Xiahou Ba, from the book Wei Lue, included in Xiahou Yuan's biography)

Xiahou Ba, stylename Zhongquan. [His father Xiahou] Yuan was killed by Shu, thus Ba was always grinding his teeth in rage and desired to take his revenge on Shu. In the middle of Huangchu [CE 220-226], he was the Lieutenant-General (Pian Jiang Jun). Serving in Ziwu, Xiahou Ba was called to lead the Van, where he advanced Xing Shi Wei. He settled his camp within the Qu valley. The Shu people knew that the general was Xiahou Ba so they pointed troops to attack him. Xiahou Ba personally got into battle in between Lu Jiao. Lai Jiu arrived and the siege was broken. Later he was made General of the Right (you jiang jun) stationed in West Long. He raised his troops well and thus won their hearts. Until the middle of [the reign of] Zheng Shi [CE 240-249], he replaced Xiahou Ru as Protector of the Army That Subdues Shu (zheng shu hu jun). At the time, the General Who Suppresses the West (zheng xi jiang jun), Xiahou Xuan, was a younger cousin of Xiahou Ba and Xuan was a cousin of Cao Shuang. When Sima Xuanwang (Sima Yi) executed Cao Shuang, he forthwith summoned Xiahou Xuan. Xiahou Xuan came to the east. Xiahou Ba heared that Cao Shuang was executed while Xiahou Xuan was summoned back, so he believed that disaster was certain to come his way and in his heart, he felt frightened. Also, initially, Xiahou Ba was not on good terms with Inspector (Ci Shi) of Yongzhou, Guo Huai. Since Guo Hua was sent to replace Xiahou Xuan as [General Who] Suppresses the West, Xiahou Ba felt uneasy so he hurrily went into Shu. He hastened south into Yinping but became lost, entering into the Qiong valley. With provisions exhausted, he killed his horse and later went on foot. He then broke his leg and laid under a rock. He sent someone out to ask for directions but he had no idea what to do. Shu had heard about this and sent a messenger to welcome Xiahou Ba. Initially, in the fifth year of Jian'an [CE 200], at the time Xiahou Ba had a younger cousin who was only thirteen or fourteen years of age and lived in the same prefecture. After going out to gather firewood, she was taken by Zhang Fei. Zhang Fei knew she was from a good family and so he married her, and she bore a daughter who was later Liu Shan's Empress (Empress Zhang). When Xiahou Yuan died, Zhang Fei's wife asked to be able to bury [her uncle]. When Xiahou Ba entered Shu, Liu Shan met with him personally, where he explained saying, "Sir, your father met his end in the processes of war and not under the blade of my ancestors." He pointed his finger to his own son and said, "Here is a [grand]-nephew of the Xiahou family". He was generously rewarded with noble rank.

[norenxaq]

what are the specific genealogical links connecting the cousins discussed above?

[青文景武剑]

XiaHouBa is among the best generals in XiaHou family

[Liu Bei]

infos about Xiahou Ba is here http://www.3kingdoms...0157#post130157

[Yun]

Actually, the RTK's placing of Xiahou Ba in a prominent position in Jiang Wei's northern campaigns, as Jiang Wei's right-hand man until his death in battle at Lintao, is entirely fictional. After Xiahou Ba's defection to the Shu-Han, he is never heard of again in the Sanguo Zhi. Clearly the Shu-Han court did not trust him enough to send him into the field.

[sima old bandit]

Actually Xiahou Ba accompanies Jiang Wei on campaign in 255 and seemed to achieve some success according to Jiang Wei's SGZ.

[Yun]

Oh yes, you're right. Xiahou Ba is mentioned as holding the rank of General of Chariots and joining in Jian Wei's attack on Didao, at which Wei General Wang Jing's army was routed with 10,000 men lost. That's the only time he appears in the SGZ after his defection.