[PrinceFong]

Howdy, everyone. I have always wanted to see the photo of GuangXu. But I haven't find it. I have seen his paintings thats about it, I really want to see what he looks like. I am sure camera is invented at that time because CIXI the empress dowager have taken soooooooo many pictures but GuangXu I haven't seen any. IF you guys have it I would be please to see it. Thanks

[General_Zhaoyun]

Here is a photo of Emperor Guangxu 光绪 of Qing Dynasty

[Wei Feng]

Here are some more pics of emperor Guangxu

http://upload.wikime...d0/Guangxu1.jpg
http://upload.wikime...Guangxu1897.PNG

This post has been edited by Wei Feng: 03 December 2005 - 07:38 AM

[ChiangAP]

Wei Feng, on Dec 3 2005, 01:36 PM, said:

Here are some more pics of emperor Guangxu

http://upload.wikime...d0/Guangxu1.jpg

He looks sad and dignified in this one. Poor man!
Thank you for the post!

[ukulelescott]

The more I study about him, the sadder I feel for him. It really jots home, how bad his life was, when you visit the Summer palace in Beijing, and see his building complex with all of the doors still bricked up.

[zaitian]

In fact there are consequential evidence that says he died of poisoning by the Empress Dowager Cixi. The commendable part was that in his later days, he still persisted to study English. In fact, he was hoping to continue with his modernisation after the death of Cixi, who sadly, outlived him by 20 hours.

[jwrevak]

zaitian, on Dec 26 2005, 03:57 AM, said:

In fact there are consequential evidence that says he died of poisoning by the Empress Dowager Cixi.

No, there isn't. If I'm wrong prove it. Just saying stuff over and over again, e.g., Cixi murdered the emperor (in some stores, from her own death bed no less!) fails to make it true. Same goes for the myth (that's all it is!) that if Cixi hadn't diverted lots of money to the re-building of the Summer Palace, China would have had a formidable navy and beaten Japan, etc., etc.

When it comes to anything "evil", "backward", or "incompetent" during the final decades of the imperial system, it's both convenient and easy to blame and villify the "wicked" Empress Dowager in knee-j_e_r_k manner. However, once one moves from mere storytelling to well documented history, one finds that much of such blame and vilification are unfounded.

(By the way, isn't it silly how the CHF software disallows use of the perfectly acceptable english word j_e_r_k in a perfectly acceptable way? Sheesh, why doesn't someone do something about this?)

[Lin Duanwen]

zaitian, on Dec 26 2005, 07:57 PM, said:

In fact there are consequential evidence that says he died of poisoning by the Empress Dowager Cixi.

When I met Puren (the younger brother of Emperor Xuantong) in 1990, he told the media that his uncle Emperor Guangxu was poisoned by Empress Dowager Cixi.

[zaitian]

The evidences I'm talking about has nothing to do with PuRen. Emperor Guangxu was definitely suffering from illness during that period but according to medical records, it was not life threatening nor acute. The one who recorded this was the imperial physician Zhou Jing Lian. 3 days before his death on the 14th of November, practitioner of western medicine, Qu Gui Ting, recalled that Emperor Guangxu was suffering from acute stomachache and was so agonised that he rolled about on his bed. He also recorded that Emperor Guangxu's complexion turned dark and his tongue showed a yellowish dark tint. His professional opinion was that those condition had nothing to do with his long suffering illness.
According to the imperial recorder Yun Yu Ding who has served the Emperor for close to 2 decades, during this period of time, gossip mongers complained to the Empress Dowager Cixi that Emperor Guangxu showed signs of relief when he heard of the Dowager's illness. This angered Cixi so much that she was recorded saying,"I shall not die before him."
As I said, many circumstantial evidences suggested foul play, although till now nothing has been proven beyond reasonable doubt. As for the fall of Qing Dynasty, true enough, Cixi was not exactly the causing factor but nonetheless she's corruption personified.

This post has been edited by zaitian: 27 December 2005 - 12:23 PM

[Hoa Phau]

gwangxu seems to be a better ruler. but enslaved by his mother's thoughts in running the state. if he's alive, he's better in reforming china.

[zaitian]

Cixi is not Emperor GuangXu's mother. She was his aunt (mother's sister). He's not exactly a good ruler considering the fact that his original wish was to carry out the reformation without alarming the Empress Dowager. His reforms failed due to the absence of political muscles in the arena controled by the 老母党 (Mama's Gang). His 小孩党(Kiddy Gang) though paved the way for reformation by facilitating opportunities for overseas education, cannot stand up against the supporters of convention. Moreover, his reforms still had roots in imperialism which was what the people were ultimately against.

This post has been edited by zaitian: 08 January 2006 - 02:15 AM