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#1 User is offline   Zhen Ji 

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 09:37 AM

Did Someone called Fa Mulan Ever exist
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Posted 15 December 2005 - 09:50 AM

花木蘭 Hua Mulan
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Posted 15 December 2005 - 11:26 AM

She may have existed, or may have been based on an actual person or persons. The poem about her dates from the Age of Fragmentation.

Some threads to look at:
http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php...dpost&p=4734434

http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php...wtopic=340&st=0

http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php...8&#entry4701548

http://www.chinahistoryforum.com/index.php...topic=1232&st=0
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Posted 15 December 2005 - 11:57 AM

did you know there was a film based on her aswell

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 02:36 AM

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Yes - one Disney movie, many Chinese television series, and many Chinese operas. I watched the Disney one in 1997 when it was released. A very strange transposition of American culture onto an ancient Chinese setting. Indeed, I don't think any Disney animated feature has ever seriously tried to reflect anything but American culture.
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Posted 16 December 2005 - 02:50 AM

View PostYun, on Dec 16 2005, 03:36 PM, said:

Yes - one Disney movie, many Chinese television series, and many Chinese operas. I watched the Disney one in 1997 when it was released. A very strange transposition of American culture onto an ancient Chinese setting. Indeed, I don't think any Disney animated feature has ever seriously tried to reflect anything but American culture.

If you think that was strange, wait till you hear about Mulan 2 (already released, BTW).
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Posted 16 December 2005 - 02:53 AM

Well...The second one was about escorting the three emperor's princess to the other nation...

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 03:16 AM

View PostHaSY, on Dec 16 2005, 03:53 PM, said:

Well...The second one was about escorting the three emperor's princess to the other nation...

See http://www.imdb.com/...967/plotsummary of plot summary for Mulan 2 ... :yucky:

I decided to spare myself by not watching it ever.
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Posted 16 December 2005 - 09:25 AM

i have to watch the second, my sisters love it. but it is funny
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Posted 16 December 2005 - 10:04 AM

Eh, I watched the second one simply because I couldn't fight my own curiousity. Obviously, all Disney sequels aren't nearly as good as the original, Mulan 2 was no exception.


*** SPOILER ALERT ***

In essense, Mulan 2 stresses individuality and freedom of choice and talks about how bad arranged marriage is. Of course, most people today would agree with these two ideals but Mulan took place several thousand years ago...
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Posted 16 December 2005 - 10:53 AM

View PostKulong, on Dec 16 2005, 03:04 PM, said:

Eh, I watched the second one simply because I couldn't fight my own curiousity. Obviously, all Disney sequels aren't nearly as good as the original, Mulan 2 was no exception.
*** SPOILER ALERT ***

In essense, Mulan 2 stresses individuality and freedom of choice and talks about how bad arranged marriage is. Of course, most people today would agree with these two ideals but Mulan took place several thousand years ago...



(Obviously, all Disney sequels aren't nearly as good as the original, Mulan 2 was no exception).

the original, i dident know there was another that even existed :g:

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 12:37 PM

View PostZhen Ji, on Dec 16 2005, 09:53 AM, said:

(Obviously, all Disney sequels aren't nearly as good as the original, Mulan 2 was no exception).

the original, i dident know there was another that even existed :g:

I was referring to Disney's first Mulan movie.
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Posted 16 December 2005 - 05:32 PM

Q: How can anyone watch that movie?
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Posted 16 December 2005 - 05:57 PM

View PostKulong, on Dec 16 2005, 10:04 AM, said:

Eh, I watched the second one simply because I couldn't fight my own curiousity. Obviously, all Disney sequels aren't nearly as good as the original, Mulan 2 was no exception.
*** SPOILER ALERT ***

In essense, Mulan 2 stresses individuality and freedom of choice and talks about how bad arranged marriage is. Of course, most people today would agree with these two ideals but Mulan took place several thousand years ago...


Greeks and Romans considered women inferior to men. They owned slaves

They would never make a hercules movie about Hercules fighting against slavery

but! but but but, they make a Mulan movie about fiendish Chinese and their multiple wives
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Posted 16 December 2005 - 06:55 PM

View PostTMPikachu, on Dec 17 2005, 06:57 AM, said:

Greeks and Romans considered women inferior to men. They owned slaves
They would never make a hercules movie about Hercules fighting against slavery
but! but but but, they make a Mulan movie about fiendish Chinese and their multiple wives

They might just throw in Spartacus into one of their animated movies ...
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