http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/03/16/new...nchu.php?page=1 (scroll down on the left, click right below multimedia where it says video)

I have about 7-8 clips of an old Manchu lady being interviewed... my site is currently down or I'd post them up.

That's a pretty amazing link there Jurchen Fuca. Thanks for posting it, I really enjoyed the video.

I am in favour of changing the name "China" to "Zhongguo". Zhongguo means middle country - which can include Manchus, Mongols, Huas, Tibetans and so forth. You can be a Manchu and a citizen of Zhongguo at the same time. No different than a Jat (name of an ethnic group) who is also a citizen of India.

Actually it was forbidden by law until 1890 or so. Non-Manchu residents of that area were Koreans(some taking chinese identity) Mongols etc. prior to the 20th century.

I don't really want to upset your nationalistic pride but the original Jin(金) dynasty was Korean in origin and guess what his(the founder) surname was.
The Korean record even has his place of birth. Pyongju. His name was Kim Hambo. Even his clan is often guessed.(there are many Kim clans in Korea)
Most think he was of Kyongju Kim branch, the royal house of shilla. But it is a bit speculative at this point.

Now if you are not happy with me for telling this awfull truth, don't blame me. Blame the authors of Jin Shi who instead of hiding this shameful history wrote the truth as known to them.

It is kinda funny that Chinese make up all these so and so stories and claim everyone is chinese while their heads hit the roof if someone mentions the Korean origin of the Jin Dynasty.

Do I think Jin was therefore Korean? No. Neither was it chinese. It was a Jurchen dynasty because Jurchens were the people who made the dynasty prosper even though the royal house and some nobilities had Korean roots while the peasants were Chinese in the majority.

Aisin is definitely an altaic word related to "Altai" etc even "Aldi"(the putative ancestor of Kyongju Kim clan).
Juelo or Gioro etc also is Manchurian, probably related to Xala etc meaning "tribe".
"Xala" in turn is probably related to the Korean word "Kyore" too and it used to mean a tribe or extended family. Now it means "nation" in modern Korean.

So Aisin Gioro means "Gold Clan" literally.
Personally I don't think that the Ching dynasty is descended from Jin dynasty in paternal lines.
But some nationalistic Koreans' claim to that effect is not something that you should feel too safe ridiculing.