Does 'drunken master' really exist after all? And the drunken kung fu too, i taught they were real! Tell me isn't so?

Personally, I've often wondered how many drunken forms there are. I know of drunken Tai Chi...and assume other arts have their own version.

I see..

The idea is NOT being drunk, but to seem to be drunk. That is the difference. The person who is using the drunken Kung Fu would have full control of his body and limbs, and NOT drunk at all!!! Otherwise, he is NOT doing the Kung Fu correctly. Not that I know for sure whether there is drunken kung fu or not. Anyway, this form of the kung fu is just a way to use Art of War in Kung Fu, and its idea is just trying to make one's opponents thinking one is drunk and can not fight properly. In truth, the person might just totally clear headed and can fight back when the enemies are unsuspecting!!!

Here is a clip of a man performing drunken boxing in the streets of 1927 Shanghai. I guess he is practicing for his next big Hong Kong film role.

I think the cameraman was drunk, though. Most of the action happened off frame.

From what I understand the original "Drunken Boxing" was based on a system called "Zue Ba Shian" or 8 Drunken Immortals, there is also a Taoist system with a similar name, but they are not related.

I know Ji Jin Shan used to teach this in Shanghai before he died and I also got wind recently of a master in China who supposedly has some very old orthodox Luohan Quan, which I plan on filming (let's call it my part to reserve this part of Chinese Martial Culture).

Jon.

P.S, the Jackie Chan movie (the first one) has orthodox movements from this style (around 70% of the moves in that movie is contained in the set from Ji Jin Shan)

Interesting. I've researched this subject in-depth, and have never been able to find an actual independent style of CMA that is called "drunken style". As others have stated in this thread, it is a component or type of form featured in many different CMA.

Do you have any links to websites about Zue Ba Shian? It would really turn things on end if there was a legit source on it.

I am very sure that it is a independent system as I know they also have a Zue Jian "drunken sword".

As for articles in English, they are few and far between. I will ask someone I know, who knows this system and will ask them if they can write a article on it.

JB.