QUOTE (Yang Zongbao @ Jun 13 2008, 11:36 AM)

...Traditionally? Japanese pirates only really started raiding in the Ming dynasty. Also, I think that you have the palm of the hand thing mistaken with the Mongols, who ironically did that to the Japanese.
Thanks Yang Zongbao, like I said it is a report I read somewhere. Is there somewhere an account of who did it when and where? This is not an effort on my part to create dissension. Its just that I made this statement in another forum and I would like substantiate it or correct it. Over and above it is a long time ago and worst things have been done in Western history.
Erhard