Hello every one.
I came across your web sight while trying to research ancient measurements.
My reason for registering for your sight was in hopes of some help in trying to determine whether a sight I have located does or does not have Chinese or related influence of which is suspected due to certain numbers and combinations which come up in the sight.

I guess you would call me an armature Archaeologist. I have been a student of the study of Native American Petroglyphs/Pictographs for about 20 years in the western states. In doing this as a hobby it has led me into other areas such as early Spanish expeditions into this area and several other sights have been visited over the years which lead me to believe other cultures as well have been here, such as Aztec, Mongolian, and other which is where the Chinese question comes in.

Before I present what it is I have found let me ask a few questions if you don't mind.
Could anyone give me a synopsis of the believed origins of the Chinese and how the Mongolian fits into the scheme of things?

Do the Chinese share the same language as the Mongolian? Writing system? And if not did they ever? If so but not today when did this separation take place?

Now just briefly, the sight in question has with out a doubt Spanish influence from about 1771, (Not the sight in question but in and around the sight) I have reason to believe the early Spanish explorers found this sight but did not know what to make of it. The sight consists of an isosceles triangle laid out in a meadow high in the mountains at about 10,000 feet. It is formed with large stones weighing at 2000 to 6000 lbs; this is only an estimate as nothing has been done to determine the actual weight at this time. The stones do not look as though they were tooled but the possibility is there taking into consideration "erosion" and shape of a few of them. Also found at the sight is what appears to be a pathway leading from the sight to a quarry of such some two hundred yards up a hill in which the stones were apparently brought from. It is not just a triangle as you will see should you wish to help; there is other seemingly related stones of which apparently have to do with the arrangement. It is the measurements and units of measurements that lead me to believe the possibility of Chinese or related influence. The Golden Ratio is abundant in this arrangement also. Some petroglyph characters are also associated with the sight of which I have no idea as to the origin; they do not appear to be of the typical Indian Petroglyph found in this region.

Due to the nature of this project of which I was invited into, there are some things I cannot elaborate upon but will do my best. I have been documenting/studying this sight since June of 2003. Although I found the sight in 2003 it was made possible by information shared with me, which is why I owe a certain allegiance of confidentiality to him who has trusted me with it.

Thank You
Daniel

Hi, Daniel Z, are you trying to find out more clues of Native American's relationship with chinese?

I do know that this is only a theory at the moment.. and many archaeologist are working on them to find out more evidence or clues ..hopefully we might uncover something OR perhaps, not.. thanks anyway for sharing your research.

Not necessarily however anything than can be learned or brought to light is a plus in my book. To my knowledge it is well beyond theory and now a known fact by way of the Mongolian DNA. One can sit and watch Discovery’s Genghis Khan and notice the similarities of the American Indian assuming the "Script" if you will and the information used to organize it was accurate. This, legends and other information leaves me with no doubt that an Asian branch or root was here as early as 2400 BC not long after the Tower of Babel.

My intent here is to present the symbols and show the arrangement of stone along with some of what has been noted and with this perhaps someone might be able to help make the determination as to whether or not this suspected Asian Influence is there.

Tomorrow I will round up a pic of the symbols and see what some of you think. An Archeologist who has done extensive research on ancient writing systems has his ideas as to their origins but even though he is a friend, I’m not convinced.

Thank you for your response.

Daniel

This is the arrangement of stones; the numbers you see are the measurements in feet.
The Letters are used in identifying the various stones or points.
The base numbers present in the arrangement are 3.83333, 11.5, 12, 15, 46, 57.5. Although the last four are actual measurements in the arrangements the first two keep coming up and seem to be the key or base numbers that tie it all together.

Various equations using any combination of these numbers gives significant number found in the entire sight not shown here. It was as a result of trying to find any ancient measuring system which used a number equal to 3.8333 feet or 46 inches or 11.5 which led me to Online Distance and Length Converter. This is where it was noticed that with all the combinations of number crunching it was Chinese in which I got the most consistent results yet still no measurement that matches the 3.83333 or 46 inches. This led me here through Google search. I was hoping for some experts in the field.





Any Thing you may be able to share would be helpful concerning ancient measurements that may not be a part of the public known Chinese history.

Below is the symbols in question that were once located near the sight, It is believed that it was destroyed in about 1930. Fortunately it was preserved through private documentation in 1863.



I realize the possibility of no Chinese influence at all. It is highly suspected of Aztec origins but here again is believed to be a n Asian tie. A trail or path which was in my opinion used for transporting the stones some 200 yards now has trees growing up in the path with the oldest being approximately 320 Years.

Thank you in advance for any help you may lend, and if not thank you for listening.

Daniel

Just for kicks this is located some 200 miles from the previous mentioned sight and not 50 miles from the Navajo reservation. It is in a very remote place. and surrounded by typical Native American Petroglyphs. I don't think one can argue as to it being a rendition of an Asian.
Interestingly enough the Navajo language and Mongolian are very similar.
Navajo/Mongolian



Daniel