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how about the Bai? I think they built two pretty long lasting kingdoms, Nanzhao and Dali?
The history of Nanzhao and Dali is very poorly known outside East Asia. There is only one English book about Nanzhao, and it was written in 1981 (Charles Backus'
The Nan-chao Kingdom and T'ang China's China's Southwestern Frontier), and there is not a single English book about Dali. Compare that to the English-speaking world's interest in the Manchus and especially the Mongols!
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The Bai were indeed one of the major forces that established the Nanzhao and Dali kingdoms.
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The Bai and Nanzhao kingdom bring to mind Jin Yong's Tian Long Ba Bu and Duan Yu.
The ethnicity of the Nanzhao kings is still debated. Some historians think they should be classified as Yi. But nearly all historians believe the majority of the Nanzhao and Dali
populations was linguistically and culturally (if not ethnicallly) Bai.
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Isn't that Nanzhao's Duan family royal family orginally actually ethnic Han from Sichuan..??
The Duan were kings of Dali, not Nanzhao, and they claimed to be from the prominent Duan family of Wuwei (in present-day Gansu) 武威段氏. But there is no way to verify this claim, since many royal or imperial families in Chinese history have falsely claimed prestigious ancestors.
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Anyway, Yue is not a major group of the southern Chinese, Yue is an integral part of Southern Han Chinese, of which there are major minorities groups such as Zhuang, Miao, Bai, Yi, Dai, etc...
It is almost certain that a large part of the Zhuang of today are descended from tribes that were called Yue in Qin-Han to Sui-Tang times.