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richardrli
Why is it that some Chinese have extremely slanted eyes that are very small and others have big, deep eyes that more resembles non-Asians. Generall people from which areas of the country have the big eyes and slanted eyes?
General_Zhaoyun
The northerners have smaller eyes and longer/sharper nose, while the southerners have large eyes and flatter nose.
TMPikachu
QUOTE(richardrli @ Sep 4 2005, 07:55 AM)
Why is it that some Chinese have extremely slanted eyes that are very small and others have big, deep eyes that more resembles non-Asians. Generall people from which areas of the country have the big eyes and slanted eyes?
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the same reason some non-asians have hair like asians, and others have hair like monkeys, genetics.


I've seen people with large, almond eyes (usually pretty attractive look), some people with little round eyes.
richardrli
Well just for the record I'm also Chinese, but I'm confused about my origins, as I have small eyes and flat nose. (Oh just why is God so unfair to certain people?!)
TMPikachu
QUOTE(richardrli @ Sep 5 2005, 06:52 AM)
Well just for the record I'm also Chinese, but I'm confused about my origins, as I have small eyes and flat nose. (Oh just why is God so unfair to certain people?!)
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Billy Bob Thorton being briefly the boyfriend of Angelina Jolie is the universe's way of telling men "It doesn't matter if you're an old ugly hillbilly, because you're a guy, and lucky for guys, looks don't matter"

I think northerners tend to have smaller eyes, southerners tend to have flatter noses. That's all relative though (smaller eyes relative to who? Flatter relative to who?)

have you tried asking your parents/grandparents on origins?
qrasy
QUOTE(General_Zhaoyun @ Sep 5 2005, 12:36 PM)
The northerners have smaller eyes and longer/sharper nose, while the southerners have large eyes and flatter nose.
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Too generealizing. I also find Northern large eyes. As a Southern one I have a very small eyes, often laughed or made fun.
Snafu
Well technically Chinese peoples' eyes are just like everyone elses. The only difference is the extra skin on the upper eyelids. They don't really "slant".

But it does make you wonder what sort of environmental conditions caused people in that part of the world to evolve with those particular features. Human variation is pretty interesting. It reminds you how closely tied we are with our environment.
richardrli
I've heard the saying goes Asiatic people evolved that extra skin around the eyes (the epicanthic fold or whatever it's called) to deal with the extreme cold as well as extreme glare of sunlight, wind and dust typical of the plains of Siberia and Mongolia. The areas where Mongoloids evolved, is this true? By the way in my personal opinion I think Asians collectively have been quite unfortunate in this regards because they're basically the only ones that have this feature and as the eyes are the most prominent part of the body, it's very easy for someone else to make fun of you.
Alexander39
QUOTE(richardrli @ Sep 7 2005, 01:15 PM)
I've heard the saying goes Asiatic people evolved that extra skin around the eyes (the epicanthic fold or whatever it's called) to deal with the extreme cold as well as extreme glare of sunlight, wind and dust typical of the plains of Siberia and Mongolia. The areas where Mongoloids evolved, is this true? By the way in my personal opinion I think Asians collectively have been quite unfortunate in this regards because they're basically the only ones that have this feature and as the eyes are the most prominent part of the body, it's very easy for someone else to make fun of you.
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Probably, it is an advantage that is important to say the least in does kind of climates, just study the Inuits their build and eyes all screams to heaven that they come from the most ekstreme envioment imaginable.
As to making fun off, that is more to do whit culture than everything else, since a symetrical built Asian is just as attractive for Negoes and Caucasian people as they are for Asiatic themself, that is just our more primitive nature that decides that.
But i guess you say it just to make fun or provoke.
Conan the destroyer
QUOTE(richardrli @ Sep 7 2005, 11:15 AM)
I've heard the saying goes Asiatic people evolved that extra skin around the eyes (the epicanthic fold or whatever it's called) to deal with the extreme cold as well as extreme glare of sunlight, wind and dust typical of the plains of Siberia and Mongolia. The areas where Mongoloids evolved, is this true? By the way in my personal opinion I think Asians collectively have been quite unfortunate in this regards because they're basically the only ones that have this feature and as the eyes are the most prominent part of the body, it's very easy for someone else to make fun of you.
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Yes, it is true. Northern Chinese, Japanese, Koreans etc are believed to have originated in the area around lake Baikal, where the weather is extremely cold. The Sami people of Norway also have folds of skin over the eyes.
richardrli
But then didn't the northern Europeans also evolved in extremely cold areas, but they don't have that fold?
TMPikachu
QUOTE(richardrli @ Sep 7 2005, 10:09 PM)
But then didn't the northern Europeans also evolved in extremely cold areas, but they don't have that fold?
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They have deep set eyes with the thick brows instead.
Or that's my guess.
urofpersia
QUOTE(richardrli @ Sep 5 2005, 07:52 PM)
Well just for the record I'm also Chinese, but I'm confused about my origins, as I have small eyes and flat nose. (Oh just why is God so unfair to certain people?!)
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Well, if consider the entire human race, surely God has trreated you well? Look at all the people suffering. Be thankful for what you have and remember there lots of people worst of than you.
urofpersia
QUOTE(richardrli @ Sep 7 2005, 07:15 PM)
I've heard the saying goes Asiatic people evolved that extra skin around the eyes (the epicanthic fold or whatever it's called) to deal with the extreme cold as well as extreme glare of sunlight, wind and dust typical of the plains of Siberia and Mongolia. The areas where Mongoloids evolved, is this true? By the way in my personal opinion I think Asians collectively have been quite unfortunate in this regards because they're basically the only ones that have this feature and as the eyes are the most prominent part of the body, it's very easy for someone else to make fun of you.
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Are you kidding? Its an attractive feature to me! Who wants those foldless weird looking women! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Alexander39
QUOTE(richardrli @ Sep 8 2005, 05:09 AM)
But then didn't the northern Europeans also evolved in extremely cold areas, but they don't have that fold?
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Nope but they seemed to have adaptet to high altitude and fairly ekstreme variations in short time periods of temperature to hot and cold, which would go a long way eksplaining the buildt and color of caucasians


QUOTE(urofpersia @ Sep 8 2005, 08:19 AM)
Are you kidding? Its an attractive feature to me! Who wants those foldless weird looking women!  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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HaSY
QUOTE(urofpersia @ Sep 8 2005, 02:19 PM)
Are you kidding? Its an attractive feature to me! Who wants those foldless weird looking women!  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Are you sure with that?Lol!!!
urofpersia
QUOTE(HaSY @ Sep 11 2005, 05:47 PM)
Are you sure with that?Lol!!!
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Quite, I prefer the asian look to western "round-eyed" look. I also prefer a more feminine face with softer lines.
Too hi Fat
QUOTE(urofpersia @ Sep 11 2005, 11:09 PM)
Quite, I prefer the asian look to western "round-eyed" look. I also prefer a more feminine face with softer lines.
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All men like the more feminine face. unless you are queer and male then its a different story. Couse queer women like women so they like the famine face as well.

The beauty about women is that ... if they are hot ... they are hot regardless of race or colour or culture. If they are fat, ugly and balding and rude .... well ... that is universal as well!

P.S ... there are white girls with asian slanty double lidded eyes as well. I know a few of them. When they dye thier hair black ... they look dead set like japanese girls.
TMPikachu
I like hot girls of all colors.

Quite humorously, the fellow with the 'chinkiest' eyes I know was a white friend of mine. All the Asians he hung out with had more 'western' eyes than he did.
richardrli
Just a quick point, I have to confess I grew up being a little racist as my parents taught me about the Koreans having no eyes at all since their eyes are so tiny like a line. So I would every time I see a Korean at my school I would pull the disgraceful slanty eye face.
Sawa
QUOTE(richardrli @ Sep 7 2005, 06:15 PM)
I've heard the saying goes Asiatic people evolved that extra skin around the eyes (the epicanthic fold or whatever it's called) to deal with the extreme cold as well as extreme glare of sunlight, wind and dust typical of the plains of Siberia and Mongolia. The areas where Mongoloids evolved, is this true? By the way in my personal opinion I think Asians collectively have been quite unfortunate in this regards because they're basically the only ones that have this feature and as the eyes are the most prominent part of the body, it's very easy for someone else to make fun of you.
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I think it was supposed to be related with riding at the earlier age, to keep the dust out of the eye there is an extra skin at the eye base. Another special trait for the Mongols..
DaMo
Good info on epi. fold at Dr. Meronk's:

http://www.drmeronk.com/asian/asian-eyelid-epicanthal.html

See http://www.drmeronk.com/asian/asian-eyelid-anatomy.html for a colorful cross-sectional comparison
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