Know this isn't Chinese martial arts.


Like to hear your opinion on this TKD clip of kicking


As a BGZ player, this Cardinal prefers staying on the ground.

That's some massive kicks. I like how the people who got kicked actually fliped over 360 degrees vertically.

ah, that was really cool to watch. Wonder if any of those guys would be able to pull them off in a mma fight though. It used to be thought that high kicks were useless in mma fights, but somewhat recently more fighters have been able to utilize them effectively.

impressive, too bad in real competitions seldom do you see exciting action like this. But it sure looks cool.

if you look up Mirko 'CroCop' Filipovic, he's a PFC fighter who is famous for landing devastating high kicks in mixed martial arts fights.

Those were pretty awesome moves of kicking, quite impressive to see jumps high up in the air landing very devastating kicks like that.

Really? I'll check it out then. I am used to see UFC and PFC fighters fighting on the ground. Which makes it very boring.

Most of those flash kicks are great for point fighting or TKO fighting.

They can't kick effectively if the target is moving.

Unless you can anticipate the direction which the target is moving to.

I guess if you can make these kicks fast enough, they can hit your target. However even in these clips, once you landed the kick on a human as a target, most likely you would also lose your balance and fall down.

Focus on their center and one can anticipate their every move.

Most "friendly" fights are boring because many of the more more spectacular moves are illegal. Half the stuff I learnt isn't ever used except in practice drills hitting imaginary opponents.

I could have done half of them 10 years ago.

This is a trailer of the Shanghai Wushu Team. IMO these guys kick better

There's a large physical price to pay f/ training like that.

Wujiang,

Q: What style of martial arts did you studied?

Interesting, in my combat experience high kicking is not the best choice. By the other side, I am not able to do most of that kicks.

Those kicks were pretty but... never in any street fight that I was in did I ever kick above the shoulders.

You don't want somebody grabbing your leg after you try to kick him in the head!

In general, many practical systems to not encourage very high kicking. Too easy to get caught, or be knocked out while the kick messes with your balance.

Agreed. Roy Hagan, Dan Inosanto, and Bruce Lee would have never agreed to kicking above the waist in a street fight against multiple attackers. (There's my pedigree! )

Xie xie Yang Shifu!

That really depends I think. Northern systems actually prefers are much wider range of kicks because there are tactical advantages in striking more areas with more tools. If you limit your leg to the lower half of the body, then the opponent can predict that can become more adapted to fighting you by taking mental resources away from defending their upper body from kick and focusing more on their lower half of the body.

About being caught in mid-kick, it is actually rather difficuit (while not impossible) to so. All kicks would be used in conjunction with hand techniques of some form. Only when the hands are kept busy will a kick be launched to the upper body. Hence the 手是兩扇門，全靠腿打人. It is extremely risky to kick someone in isolation with other hand techniques and I have yet to see a single taolu in north or the south that does that.

Modern day practitioners loose balance when kicking because they often make the same mistake. They 'uproot' themselves when kicking and over commit their body into it. The key difference is that most Chinese kicks, evem when they are to the head of chest does not push their hips out as oppose to pulling it back. This allows for the body to stand up straighter and keep the CG of the body relatively firm onto the standing leg. The kicking leg therefore become an independent tool and not connected by force to the body.

Wujiang, it seems everything you've said on how high kicks should be used, from the matches I've seen, really are true. Did you learn this from studying Chinese martial arts? It really seems like there is alot of knowledge that just went out of practice in Chinese fighting.

Here's a video from youtube that pretty much proves your statement about how high kicks should be used
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuzrm1KMPJQ

Around the middle is when the fighting segments show up. The guy doesn't fall over when he high kicks, and he usually uses it in conjunction with punches. The timing is also late into fights, when people are more fatigued.

Not really what I am trying say actually. While distraction does play a part in it, it is actually somewhat risky due to the fact that kicks, ralatively to hand strikes, a slower and split second distractions are not always enough. Most if not all high kicks in CMA actually takes hold of the defending hand and pulls it down before executing kicks such as the bailian. If the kick is going in a straight line towards the face or throat, similar measures are taken such as lifting both of the opponent's hands upwards or out to the sides.

so there is usually a grab attempt before throwing the kick? Is there any video of this?

Are there any english language books that detail what you've talked about.

Can't find anything online....

Got some more.

Do not to turn this site into a conduit for "YouTube" and other sites like that.

(yes I know this is an old article)

I remember years ago reading in some magazine about a a Korean baseball guy who got into a fight and threw a high tae kown do type of round house kick and got his leg grab and got plummeted pretty badly by the guy afterwards.

In my opinion it usually not the best move (although I wouldnt discount it if I can use it if he doesnt expect it).